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2 Busy

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I have seen post of folks useing brush hogs on the H. Would it be capable of running a NH 451 sickle mower. If i ever get this one running and see what kind of shape the engine is in i might put a 3 point and wide front to use in the hay field.

Right now i just have one tractor to run the mower and square baler. I get tired of changing back and forth.

I still have to come up with a round baler and probably another rake before summer.

i have 2 NH 451 (7'&9') sickle mowers so i do not plan on buying a pull type.I figure buying a round baler will be all i can afford. Just need to know if the H will have enough hyd and power. If not then i do not know if i will need this H.
 
It would take a little money but an H can be set up easily to do just about whatever you want. Saginaw County Tractor makes a very nice 3pt. hitch, good enough in my mind the factory could have used it. Also live hydraulics isn't to bad of a job to convert to. Also Charlyn still makes a power steering unit. The H can be vary versital.
 
Well , i still have to see how this ole tractor sounds and see if it is going to be a fixer- up- ur or a parts tractor. will have to see how many greenbacks it's going to take to be a user.
 
2 Busy":14gsgat7 said:
I have seen post of folks useing brush hogs on the H. Would it be capable of running a NH 451 sickle mower. If i ever get this one running and see what kind of shape the engine is in i might put a 3 point and wide front to use in the hay field.
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Put a wide front on a mowing tractor? No way if I was going to use it!
 
GILLES":1oabsdpi said:
:o MY LAND IS ON A MONTAIN SIDE, I WAS TINKING STABILITY :shock:

GILLES
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Gilles,

That's a good plan. Many don't understand why, but the wide front does help stability. Setting the rear wheels out helps even more. Stability comes at the sacrifice of maneuverability but for sloping terain it's a good trade. Safety is far more important than ease. :wink:
 
thats why all my tractors have wide fronts, hills,dips some of these hills is spooky with a wide front. it would'nt take much to tip a narrow over in places.
 
I just bought this H about a month ago. It needs some TLC, but the sheet metal is straight. This baby purrs like a kitten. The first tractor I owned was an H. It always performed. It didn't have a hydraulic hitch, though. I pulled a Woods C80 bushhog with it with no problems.
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You are only gonna have 25 hp IF you get a top notch H!!! now,----you say you WANT to pull round baler!----SERIOUSLY doubt 25 hp would even pull a small round baler! I personally know it won't even lift the gate on a regular size baler, let alone make bales with it!!----the big vermeers,---510/etc. Deere's require like the size of 4440 deere or equivlent hp if you want to do serious baling and have the weight to handle the baler, especialy on hilly ground!! thanks; sonny
 
Suggest looking for a bigger (horsepower) tractor than the H if you are planning on using it to operate a baler.

If i were looking for a work tractor I would get one with live PTO, live hydraulics and factory built 2-point/3 point.

An opinion.

Eugene
 
I think some of you have miss read. I have another tractor that i will use for the round baler. I just want to get the H going to use the sickle mower on. Other wise the other tractor, Allis Chalmer 170 diesel does double duty, sickle mower and baler. And i have to constantly switch the 2 back and forth plus whatever other prodject comes up.

I know the 170 will not handle a large baler but all i want to make are 4x5 anyway.
 
George Willer":1jknuwds said:
GILLES":1jknuwds said:
:o MY LAND IS ON A MONTAIN SIDE, I WAS TINKING STABILITY :shock:

GILLES
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Gilles,

That's a good plan. Many don't understand why, but the wide front does help stability. Setting the rear wheels out helps even more. Stability comes at the sacrifice of maneuverability but for sloping terain it's a good trade. Safety is far more important than ease. :wink:
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2 Busy":1jknuwds said:
thats why all my tractors have wide fronts, hills,dips some of these hills is spooky with a wide front. it would'nt take much to tip a narrow over in places.
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This has been discussed at length many times in the past with no final agreement. But I can't let this pass without at least stating my dissenting opinion.

IMHO, the illusion of greater stability with a wide front end is mostly that, an illusion. If it wouldn't take much to tip a narrow over, it wouldn't take much more to tip a wide over.

I don't intend to make this a long discussion again.
 
Yes Jim, I have seen the numerous debates on narrow versus wide fronts.

I can honestly say i have never used a narrow front tractor , so i can not compare the two . But i have drove a tricycle in my younger days and loaded a wheel barrow too far on one side. :wink:
 
Jim Becker":3meup33n said:
George Willer":3meup33n said:
GILLES":3meup33n said:
:o MY LAND IS ON A MONTAIN SIDE, I WAS TINKING STABILITY :shock:

GILLES
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Gilles,

That's a good plan. Many don't understand why, but the wide front does help stability. Setting the rear wheels out helps even more. Stability comes at the sacrifice of maneuverability but for sloping terain it's a good trade. Safety is far more important than ease. :wink:
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2 Busy":3meup33n said:
thats why all my tractors have wide fronts, hills,dips some of these hills is spooky with a wide front. it would'nt take much to tip a narrow over in places.
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This has been discussed at length many times in the past with no final agreement. But I can't let this pass without at least stating my dissenting opinion.

IMHO, the illusion of greater stability with a wide front end is mostly that, an illusion. If it wouldn't take much to tip a narrow over, it wouldn't take much more to tip a wide over.

I don't intend to make this a long discussion again.
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Jim,

We've voiced our opinions several times in the past and we still don't agree. Safety is very important to me and I don't believe in anyone except Eval Knievel taking unnecessary chances with conditions that could be dangerous. That's why I promote WFE for safety. My opinion isn't based on illusions... it's based on physics and geometry. Either you understand or you don't. :( The margin between 90% certainty of overturning and 105% certainty shouldn't be taken lightly.

The model I use is a static one, but a dynamic model would show an even greater difference.

You KNEW I couldn't resist a reply! :D
 
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