Ugly drive line noise diagnosis?

pauln

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The Cub I "adopted" recently sure is noisy from the drive line. I know they all tend to be, but this seems a bit excessive. I made a Youtube video (link below). It's really bad under power, totally goes away when the clutch is pushed on. Also the noise really changes dramatically when the throttle is pushed in and then back out.

Anyone willing to take a guess? Any other ways to diagnose?

 
Probably not the problem in your case, I couldn't listen to your video, the audio on my computer doesn't work. Anyway, many moons ago I thought I had rear end or trans problems on my H since I would feel the vibration through the platform, after pulling it and not really finding anything something made me jack up the front and spin the wheels, turned out both side had bad bearings. At least I knew everything in the trans looked good!

I just had another thought, my Cub got water in the trans and froze, I drained it after it thawed and flushed it with diesel. while driving it 100 feet or so to splash the diesel around those straight cut gears were screaming so bad I thought I had real problems but when I refilled with 80W90 its back to normal. Maybe see what the lube looks like.

Good luck and let us know what you find out.
 
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Such a quick clacking I would assume its something that moves fast or is connected/connects to something that moves fast. Since it goes away when pushing the clutch in, it must be somewhere farther down the line like the transmission. It almost sounds like 2 gears in the transmission lightly tapping or "kissing" each other. Have you taken the transmission cover off and looked at the gears and shifter forks? Does the noise change at all in different gears?
 
Anyone willing to take a guess?
Hi,
You didn't say if you checked, or changed the transmission oil.
It is common for Cub trans to have water in them, from rain, or condensation in them over time.
The trans oil filler plug is at the rear of the shifter.
The trans oil level plug is low on the left side of the trans, fill it only until oil comes out there.
It holds 3 1/2 Pints of gear oil.
The trans oil drain plug is at the bottom of the trans, visible from under the platform. :)
 
My PTO still makes noise when it disengaged..it's getting some worn parts internally...I can put my hand on the pto pulley and feel it vibrating/rattling.
Hi,
One possibility that could be causing what you said is the PTO pilot bushing.
I have seen one that was dry, and worn with grooves in it.
The bushing is at the front of the PTO shaft, about 12" in from the rear of the housing.
The bushing is in the end of the long clutch shaft.
TM Tractor Parts has a new PTO pilot bushing.
There is a How To in the How To section on here showing how to remove the bushing, I think he turned a bolt into the bushing.
If the end of the PTO shaft where it goes in the bushing isn't smooth, it needs repair, or the shaft replaced.
The Cub service manual tells about removing the PTO, and putting it in.
Below are pictures. Pictures 1, 2, and 4 are from TM Tractor Parts.
1 shows the PTO shaft.
2 shows the bushing in the rear of the clutch shaft.
3 shows where it is, the upper shiny part in the picture.
4 shows the PTO clutch, it turns the PTO on or off, by sliding on the shaft. I think it mostly covers the bushing area, so the bushing gets little oil, from the gears throwing oil.
 

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I've never dug into the internals of my pto..I did reposition the PTO lever plate, that bolts on top of transmission cover...that seems to help a little bit..I also greased the outboard bearing...it was dry...Thanks for the pictures...with the transmission in neutral, and PTO lever disengaged...I can put my hand on the PTO pulley, and it feels like it's try to engage.
I spend more time working on my 1952 Willys M38, than I do, with my Cub...
Now, with the fire danger getting worse, I'm not really doing anything on my Jeep, that could a fire started...
 
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