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Permanent Connection of Noco Trickle Charger - Leaving the Battery Cover On
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Permanent Connection of Noco Trickle Charger - Leaving the Battery Cover On
I purchased a Noco Genius 2 trickle charger. This is a 2a smart charger, and can be left connected to any 6 or 12V battery continuously. I wanted to make sure my battery stays charged, as I am working with the original 6V system, which turns the engine over slowly, especially in cold winter temperatures.
In addition to the charger, I purchased their ring terminal lead kit in order to permanently attach to my battery.
I was able to feed the ring terminals through the grommet. I then attached the ring terminals, minor bending was necessary to achieve the proper orientation, and to allow the terminals to lay flat. Thus, the battery cover can be installed as well.
The other nice part about the Noco charger is that the leads on both the charger and tractor side both have dust covers for when not in use. Additionally, the leads are fused should a short occur.
I may make a bracket or something to hold the leads on the tractor side, but my install is mostly complete.
Connection of leads
Dust cover
Connection of tractor and charger leads
In addition to the charger, I purchased their ring terminal lead kit in order to permanently attach to my battery.
I was able to feed the ring terminals through the grommet. I then attached the ring terminals, minor bending was necessary to achieve the proper orientation, and to allow the terminals to lay flat. Thus, the battery cover can be installed as well.
The other nice part about the Noco charger is that the leads on both the charger and tractor side both have dust covers for when not in use. Additionally, the leads are fused should a short occur.
I may make a bracket or something to hold the leads on the tractor side, but my install is mostly complete.
Connection of leads
Dust cover
Connection of tractor and charger leads
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Re: Permanent Connection of Noco Trickle Charger - Leaving the Battery Cover On
My John Deere X485 mowing tractor requires the hood to be removed to gain access to the battery. Poor design on John Deere’s part. I did something very similar with a NOCO trickle charger for that tractor.
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Re: Permanent Connection of Noco Trickle Charger - Leaving the Battery Cover On
The nice part about the Noco is that you still have the original leads too, so it can be used to charge other equipment in the off season, too.
Also, I am hoping to get some longevity out of this 6V battery. Figured I would experiment, and see if the trickle charger helps. I haven't had the best luck with 6V in the past, seems like 12V batteries last longer on stuff that is infrequently used.
Also, I am hoping to get some longevity out of this 6V battery. Figured I would experiment, and see if the trickle charger helps. I haven't had the best luck with 6V in the past, seems like 12V batteries last longer on stuff that is infrequently used.
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Re: Permanent Connection of Noco Trickle Charger - Leaving the Battery Cover On
The Schumacher maintainers that I have posted about in the past come with a similar pigtail for permanent attachment. For the 6-volt Cubs, it didn't seem worthwhile as it is just as easy to use the spring clamps at the starter. The 12-volt Cubs aren't as convenient, so I have installed the pigtails. I didn't want to connect at the battery as it adds to the number of connections exposed to battery fumes and the eventual corrosion. So I attached the hot lead to one side of the ammeter and the ground to one of the fuel tank to panel screws. When not in use, the pigtail can be stuffed in on top of the Touch-Control block. If you have an under-mounted exhaust system, be sure your connecter can't fall onto the exhaust pipe.
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Re: Permanent Connection of Noco Trickle Charger - Leaving the Battery Cover On
rjohnson wrote:I purchased a Noco Genius 2 trickle charger. This is a 2a smart charger, and can be left connected to any 6 or 12V battery continuously. I wanted to make sure my battery stays charged, as I am working with the original 6V system, which turns the engine over slowly, especially in cold winter temperatures.
In addition to the charger, I purchased their ring terminal lead kit in order to permanently attach to my battery.
I was able to feed the ring terminals through the grommet. I then attached the ring terminals, minor bending was necessary to achieve the proper orientation, and to allow the terminals to lay flat. Thus, the battery cover can be installed as well.
The other nice part about the Noco charger is that the leads on both the charger and tractor side both have dust covers for when not in use. Additionally, the leads are fused should a short occur.
I may make a bracket or something to hold the leads on the tractor side, but my install is mostly complete.
Connection of leads
Dust cover
Connection of tractor and charger leads
Nicely done! I've got battery maintainers on everything here in my barns. At last count I think I have 6 or 7 of them. They really help the battery to last much, much longer.
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Re: Permanent Connection of Noco Trickle Charger - Leaving the Battery Cover On
I have several rigs set up like that. My AC generator, my ZTR, My H, My loader tractor, anything that is only used occasionally. A word of warning, be sure to disconnect the maintainer before starting the engine. I forgot to do that a couple times over the years, and had to replace both maintainers.
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Re: Permanent Connection of Noco Trickle Charger - Leaving the Battery Cover On
Would this idea of George Willer's work with a maintainer, or only for a jump start?
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Re: Permanent Connection of Noco Trickle Charger - Leaving the Battery Cover On
Bob McCarty wrote:Would this idea of George Willer's work with a maintainer, or only for a jump start?
http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic. ... 40&t=16548
It would work. But I have never been able to figure out what made that better than simply clipping to the nut on top of the stud. Maybe adds a little distance from the lever on the switch?
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Re: Permanent Connection of Noco Trickle Charger - Leaving the Battery Cover On
Moved from my other post in worng topic.
Similar on BobCat skid steer. Have to remove the seat to get to the battery.
Mounted a slip connecter, wired to battery, to the sheet metal on the side of the skid steer. Change the terminals on a trickle charger to the matching slip connecter.
Similar on BobCat skid steer. Have to remove the seat to get to the battery.
Mounted a slip connecter, wired to battery, to the sheet metal on the side of the skid steer. Change the terminals on a trickle charger to the matching slip connecter.
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Re: Permanent Connection of Noco Trickle Charger - Leaving the Battery Cover On
I use die hard maintainers both 6 and 12 bolt they can be attached to the battery post ,the pig tail threaded through the ground hole on battery box .They also have a push pull connection. Used for several years no issues. I do believe the batteries last longer .
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Re: Permanent Connection of Noco Trickle Charger - Leaving the Battery Cover On
I learned back in the old days to disconnect a battery before attaching a charger and I can't seem to get past it. We were always told that it's not good on the generator or alternator to back charge through it, I have no idea if that's true. I think there is a lot of parasitic draw on the battery especially in my old tractors. Whether I leave a charger on an hour or a month I always disconnect the ground wire. And on a couple tractors I disconnect the ground when I'm finished for the day.
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Re: Permanent Connection of Noco Trickle Charger - Leaving the Battery Cover On
Dell wrote:I learned back in the old days to disconnect a battery before attaching a charger and I can't seem to get past it. We were always told that it's not good on the generator or alternator to back charge through it, I have no idea if that's true. I think there is a lot of parasitic draw on the battery especially in my old tractors. Whether I leave a charger on an hour or a month I always disconnect the ground wire. And on a couple tractors I disconnect the ground when I'm finished for the day.
The Cub has a switch. The generator is not connected to the battery when it's off right?
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Re: Permanent Connection of Noco Trickle Charger - Leaving the Battery Cover On
I keep a smart charger hooked to my big deep cycle battery on the toon. I will swap it to the start battery every so many weeks or month, it never takes a charge as it's always full. I just charged my battery on my old k10, it's a cheap 1 year walmart battery. I keep a smart charger on the cubs 6v and I keep a solar maintainer on the 12v Yanmar tractor. Those things are worth the $18 or whatever they cost. The solar maintainer keeps it topped up when not in use.
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Re: Permanent Connection of Noco Trickle Charger - Leaving the Battery Cover On
Also when have the maintainers on I keep to switch on low charge, if I remember correctly I believe I read some place to do this.??
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Re: Permanent Connection of Noco Trickle Charger - Leaving the Battery Cover On
The generator does not connect through the switch, but the voltage regulator or cutout whichever it has includes a relay that opens and disconnects the generator from the battery. An alternator has diodes that prevent back feed unless one of them shorts, which does happen, but not often.Clemsonfor wrote:Dell wrote:I learned back in the old days to disconnect a battery before attaching a charger and I can't seem to get past it. We were always told that it's not good on the generator or alternator to back charge through it, I have no idea if that's true. I think there is a lot of parasitic draw on the battery especially in my old tractors. Whether I leave a charger on an hour or a month I always disconnect the ground wire. And on a couple tractors I disconnect the ground when I'm finished for the day.
The Cub has a switch. The generator is not connected to the battery when it's off right?
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