Bringing a "New" H home tomorrow!

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Bringing a "New" H home tomorrow!

Postby Jim in SC » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:44 pm

I've been a member of the Forum for a couple or three years, I guess. Got loads of GREAT information in the process of restoring my '51 Cub. My Cub is still my "go to" for the minimal "farming" I do, primarily because I have the implements I need to go with it. But I have always wanted an H. I spent my growing up summers working on my dad's cousin's farm (80 acres) in Iowa. My dad's cousin worked the M, his son worked the H, and I, as the gofer, got the F-14. I liked the F-14, but it was a beast. The tractor I loved was the H, and I drove it every chance I got. Never owned one though. Well, tomorrow I am finally changing that. I'm heading upstate to pick up a 1951 Model H! Can't wait! Here is the picture of it from CL: Other pictures to follow in a day or two. :)
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Re: Bringing a "New" H home tomorrow!

Postby ajhbike » Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:52 pm

Good for you!!! I too would want one some day

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Re: Bringing a "New" H home tomorrow!

Postby Stanton » Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:50 pm

Congratulations to you on getting the H. Looks to be very straight in its work clothes.

Plans to paint or restore it?
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Tractors Owned: 1951 Farmall H - "Ray R." (SN FBH 366519)
1959 Farmall Cub - "Pea" (SN 211538 J)
1964 IH Cub Cadet 100 - (SN 92562)
1971 IH Cub Cadet 106 - (SN 380760)

2018 Husqvarna YTH18542

Tractor previously owned:
1951 Farmall Cub - "Johnny R."
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Conway, South Carolina

Re: Bringing a "New" H home tomorrow!

Postby Jim in SC » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:04 am

Stanton wrote:Congratulations to you on getting the H. Looks to be very straight in its work clothes.

Plans to paint or restore it?


Thanks! I'll have to check it out when I get it of course, but I do like everything to work and to be original. It'll be a work in progress i think. When I did my Cub, I pretty much took it all the way down, repaired what needed repairing, painted it, and put it back together. Not sure I'll go that far this time, but I do plan on painting it at some point.

Can't wait to go get it this morning! Long road trip, about 450 miles round trip, but worth it.
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Tractors Owned: 1951 Farmall H - "Ray R." (SN FBH 366519)
1959 Farmall Cub - "Pea" (SN 211538 J)
1964 IH Cub Cadet 100 - (SN 92562)
1971 IH Cub Cadet 106 - (SN 380760)

2018 Husqvarna YTH18542

Tractor previously owned:
1951 Farmall Cub - "Johnny R."
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Conway, South Carolina

Re: Bringing a "New" H home tomorrow!

Postby Jim in SC » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:39 pm

Picked up the H today. Really in nice shape, but needs a good cleaning and a paint job. It was purchased new in 1951 by the family I got it from. Still has it's original tires - B F Goodrich!. And - this was a surprise to me - it's a distillate model, complete with the radiator shutter. I'll be running gasoline though, not kerosene. For now, it has a new home in my barn next to it's little brother, my '51 Cub. It'll have to wait a bit before I get to refreshing it - the wife says there are a few other chores to be done around the home place first, before restoring another tractor. What could be more important than that is beyond me though... :)
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Re: Bringing a "New" H home tomorrow!

Postby Slim140 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:35 am

Nice! Original barn finds are getting harder to find no matter the model. Looks great the way it is (for now).
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Re: Bringing a "New" H home tomorrow!

Postby oldfarmkid » Wed Feb 21, 2018 6:45 pm

Great find, have fun!!

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1959 Farmall Cub - "Pea" (SN 211538 J)
1964 IH Cub Cadet 100 - (SN 92562)
1971 IH Cub Cadet 106 - (SN 380760)

2018 Husqvarna YTH18542

Tractor previously owned:
1951 Farmall Cub - "Johnny R."
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Conway, South Carolina

Re: Bringing a "New" H home tomorrow!

Postby Jim in SC » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:07 pm

Thanks to all for the great comments. I really got a nice H, I believe.

Got a question: This tractor does have the small, second fuel tank for distillate or kerosene. It also came with (not attached) radiator shutters - never used according to the grandson of the man who bought it new. According to him it was always run on gasoline. Here's my question: according to tractordata.com, the H had three different engines: Gas, distillate, and kero. How do I tell which engine I have on this tractor?
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Re: Bringing a "New" H home tomorrow!

Postby ShawnAgne » Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:10 pm

Nice
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Re: Bringing a "New" H home tomorrow!

Postby Stanton » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:59 am

Not sure about your question, but the small fuel tank was for gas-to get it started-then switch it over to kero or distillant.

Glad you got it home safe.
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Tractors Owned: 1951 Farmall H - "Ray R." (SN FBH 366519)
1959 Farmall Cub - "Pea" (SN 211538 J)
1964 IH Cub Cadet 100 - (SN 92562)
1971 IH Cub Cadet 106 - (SN 380760)

2018 Husqvarna YTH18542

Tractor previously owned:
1951 Farmall Cub - "Johnny R."
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Conway, South Carolina

Re: Bringing a "New" H home tomorrow!

Postby Jim in SC » Thu Feb 22, 2018 12:03 pm

Stanton wrote:Not sure about your question, but the small fuel tank was for gas-to get it started-then switch it over to kero or distillant.

Glad you got it home safe.

Thanks! The ride home went great, no issues.

Okay, that makes sense about the fuel tanks.

On the other question: Tractordata.com states that a kerosene engine has a compression of 4.5:1 and a distillate engine has a compression of 4.75.1, while a gas engine's compression is 5.9:1

Without checking compression, I was wondering if there was maybe a casting mark somewhere on the engine or head that would identify it as kero, dist, or gas. Not a biggie, just curious is all. Heck, the tractor runs great - I just like to know details...

:)
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Re: Bringing a "New" H home tomorrow!

Postby Stanton » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:46 pm

Look for a small, round, brass tag on top of your carburetor. That ID number will tell you what you have. Cross reference that number with the Case-IH parts list found here:
https://partstore.caseih.com/us/parts-search.html?csid=c5083756ce5a9ae416bba5c1195515e2&sl=EN&currency=&csid=c5083756ce5a9ae416bba5c1195515e2&sl=EN&currency=#epc::mr59088ar256759

Also helpful is "Wrenching with Rachel" (Steiner Tractor Parts) video: http://www.steinertractor.tv/wrenching-with-rachel/how-to-identify-your-carburetor/189272--3848536/
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Tractors Owned: 1951 Farmall H - "Ray R." (SN FBH 366519)
1959 Farmall Cub - "Pea" (SN 211538 J)
1964 IH Cub Cadet 100 - (SN 92562)
1971 IH Cub Cadet 106 - (SN 380760)

2018 Husqvarna YTH18542

Tractor previously owned:
1951 Farmall Cub - "Johnny R."
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Conway, South Carolina

Re: Bringing a "New" H home tomorrow!

Postby Jim in SC » Thu Feb 22, 2018 8:06 pm

Stanton wrote:Look for a small, round, brass tag on top of your carburetor. That ID number will tell you what you have. Cross reference that number with the Case-IH parts list found here:
https://partstore.caseih.com/us/parts-search.html?csid=c5083756ce5a9ae416bba5c1195515e2&sl=EN&currency=&csid=c5083756ce5a9ae416bba5c1195515e2&sl=EN&currency=#epc::mr59088ar256759

Also helpful is "Wrenching with Rachel" (Steiner Tractor Parts) video: http://www.steinertractor.tv/wrenching-with-rachel/how-to-identify-your-carburetor/189272--3848536/


Excellent! I'll check it out in the morning!
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Re: Bringing a "New" H home tomorrow!

Postby v w » Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:41 am

I wouldn't change a thing in its appearance! Having the shutters is unusual, they were generally the first to go. A 51 model probably would be kerosene since distillate would be hard to impossible to find by 51. Distillate was a by product of distillation after other products were made and was a cheap fuel. Improvements in cracking at refineries made distillate hard to find after WWII. I have a lot of seat time on a 1939 H which was built as a distillate burner but by the time I was old enough to drive it was only gasoline having been overhauled using M&W pistons and sleeves which does give quite a boost in power. This changes nothing on the outside. I actually liked the M better and have quite a bit of time on it. A few hours on the Super M and there is a difference. I know where Dad's old Super M is and I told the owner a couple of weeks ago that if he ever wanted to sell it to let me know. He smiled and said "It's happy here" Excellent find. Have fun! Vern


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