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New to Me Farmall AV

Farmall Super A, AV, 100, 130, & 140 1939 - 1973
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby randallc » Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:04 am

Awesome. Sure saved a lot of filing.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Capnball » Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:57 pm

Stanton, when I'm rich and famous, I want you to be my mechanic. :lol: Your work is inspiring to me big time.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Fri Jun 28, 2019 3:40 pm

Thanks to all for the encouraging comments.

When assembling the drive shaft and input flange on the tranny, I noticed only (3) bolts (which I made one, see earlier in thread), but also noticed the rubber washers were shot. Ran the part number and came up with a few places that carried them. Only problem I had was the price. Something in me balked at paying $2.99 each. With (8) washers plus shipping, I was looking at around $40. Nope. Ain't gonna doit.

I found on Amazon a place called Rubber Sheet Warehouse. They would send me a roll of 2" x 60" x 0.25" thick rubber for $11.19 and free shipping (I'm not a Prime customer). I already had the 1/2" punch (Harbor Freight) to make the inside hole and several bi-metal hole saws to cut the outside diameter. Come to find out, the OD needed was a little over 1" and the hole saws I had were every size but--so I stopped by Home Depot and bought a 1-1/4" hole saw. The inside diameter of the hole saw cut a perfect hole to fit the retainer.

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Old worn out rubber washer.

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Hole saw was a breeze cutting the rubber.

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Use a little dish soap on tip of punch.

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Pressing the punch to make inside hole.

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All ready for assembly.

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The (4) specialty bolts with rubber washers, retainers AND straightened plate.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Dale Finch » Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:26 pm

Great job. I found the same thing when I did my front tranny seal. Didn't think to make them myself, so went to a rubber place nearby, and they punched out 2 sets for me. Gave one away to someone...don't remember who.

I sure wish I had had your skill in making the tapered bolts! I ended up smoothing out the grooves as best I could, and reused the old ones.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Sat Jul 13, 2019 9:02 pm

Made some more progress on the AV over the last week. Got the drop axles and torque tube reattached to the transmission.
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Drop axles, torque tube and tranny assembled.


Next are the wheels and rims. Using a 4-1/2" angle grinder with a twisted wire wheel. Takes awhile to be sure. But gets the job done. Be sure to wear eye protection and leather gloves.
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Stripping the rims.

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Ready to prime and paint.


Today, it was time to do some more assembly. Wheel centers stripped and put back into their rims. Now it's time for the wheels to earn their keep in holding up this AV's rear end.
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Wheels went back on today.


Before closing up the barn today, I figured out how to disassemble the front axle. Came apart pretty quick.
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Front axle disassembled.


As soon as I can strip these parts, I can start reassembling the front end of the AV (engine and axle).
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Indy4570 » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:05 am

love threads like this!!, you do great work!
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby randallc » Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:35 am

I agree, you do great work.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby EZ » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:43 am

How is your steering?
Tight or sloppy?
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:11 pm

EZ wrote:How is your steering?
Tight or sloppy?


Before disassembly, it was fairly sloppy.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Dale Finch » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:35 pm

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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Sun Jul 21, 2019 5:24 pm

Not much to show this update. Got the steering housing apart, including one of the tie rods (see method used here: http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=143&t=66405&p=540936#p540936).

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Tie rod and steering arm.

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Boogered up tie rod end by PO.

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Start with short piece of 3/4" copper pipe, large washer and the nut.

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Got my battery operated impact wrench involved.

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Keep adding sections of pipe.

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Out easy as you please. No freezing the pipe this time.

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Tie rod disassembled. Can to the left of the impact is filled with 50/50 acetone and ATF. Tie rod received a good dose of it.

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Used a 3/8" dowel, slot cut in the end, small piece of 120 sandpaper.

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Removed quite a bit of rusty residue.

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Opening up the steering box is always a delight. There was both oil and grease in there.

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Steering worm gear disassembled.

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NOS Armstrong tires.

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Tire tag.


Like I stated in my other thread, I don't know how old these tires are, but they have "Made in the USA" stamped in them. Will proceed like they're better than the ones on the AV now until I discover differently. :wink:
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Tue Jul 30, 2019 10:51 am

Here's a question for everyone: Should I try to correct the angle in the front steering arm or not?
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Slight angle.


Steering arm is made of cast iron. Don't know if it's malleable or not. Obviously, it got bent to the current angle without breaking. If you think I should try, would you suggest heating it up or doing a cold bend?
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Super A » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:15 am

Personally I'd heat it but I am by no means an expert!

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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Slim140 » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:21 am

I would heat it. I would think it's cast steel, not cast iron. Cast iron doesn't usually bend, it snaps.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Tue Jul 30, 2019 11:43 am

Shane N. wrote:I would heat it. I would think it's cast steel, not cast iron. Cast iron doesn't usually bend, it snaps.


True. The narrowest place on the arm is about 1" wide by 3/8"+ thick (going off of memory as I sit here at work). As I've disassembled this tractor, it's obvious that it ran into something; hard. If the material was cast iron, a piece that narrow would have broke.

Was thinking of heating it up, holding the base in a vise and using a long pipe inserted in the opening and gently pulling it back down to the same plane as the base.

Super A wrote:Personally I'd heat it but I am by no means an expert!

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Thanks for your opinions, ya'll. :hattip:
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