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New to Me Farmall AV

Farmall Super A, AV, 100, 130, & 140 1939 - 1973
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:18 pm

Dale Finch wrote::oops: OOPS! Sorry about that! So used to seeing his projects, I guess! Good job, STANTON! :hattip:


Why, thank you very much, Dale! :)
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Slim140 » Sun Dec 01, 2019 9:40 pm

Stanton wrote:
Dale Finch wrote:A-#1 job there, Shane!! The planning is probably the biggest part!


Uh, point of clarification: I’m not, nor ever will be, at Shane’s level of expertise.
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Stanton, you’re a talented man. You do things with what you have, I respect you and everyone else who makes do with what they have and do a darn good job at it.

Your fender and everything else you’ve made, repaired, or replaced on this tractor and elsewhere looks awesome!

My expertise isn’t any better than anyone else’s, I do enjoy sharing and also reading and seeing pictures of others things that they do.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Mon Dec 02, 2019 7:55 am

Shane N. wrote:
Stanton wrote:
Dale Finch wrote:A-#1 job there, Shane!! The planning is probably the biggest part!


Uh, point of clarification: I’m not, nor ever will be, at Shane’s level of expertise.
:hattip:

Stanton, you’re a talented man. You do things with what you have, I respect you and everyone else who makes do with what they have and do a darn good job at it.

Your fender and everything else you’ve made, repaired, or replaced on this tractor and elsewhere looks awesome!

My expertise isn’t any better than anyone else’s, I do enjoy sharing and also reading and seeing pictures of others things that they do.


Well, thanks. Likewise, I've always enjoyed your threads on what you're doing in the shop.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby BullDAWG » Mon Dec 02, 2019 11:23 am

Stanton wrote:
Shane N. wrote:
Stanton wrote:
Uh, point of clarification: I’m not, nor ever will be, at Shane’s level of expertise.
:hattip:

Stanton, you’re a talented man. You do things with what you have, I respect you and everyone else who makes do with what they have and do a darn good job at it.

Your fender and everything else you’ve made, repaired, or replaced on this tractor and elsewhere looks awesome!

My expertise isn’t any better than anyone else’s, I do enjoy sharing and also reading and seeing pictures of others things that they do.


Well, thanks. Likewise, I've always enjoyed your threads on what you're doing in the shop.


Both of ya'll do a great job n help ppl tons.... Just wanted to say thanks n keep it up to BOTH of YA'LL and to everyone here thats helped me keep my 70 year old gal going n working good. I wish ya'll were closer though then my tractor could look like new instead of just working right LOL j/k...(sorta)... I try giving my advice as I owned an automotive machine shop for years, but till I owned my own Farmalls I never worked on them so its been a learning experience and ppl like u-2 have made this trip way easier. Thanks again and to ALL those who share their time and experience with these ole iron.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:28 pm

Further progress on the fenders. Already patched a major cutout from a PO. Now, there are several 1/2" holes that I don't like, so am going to weld them up. Using a 1/2" mild steel rod, I sliced off several pieces just a little thicker than the sheet metal. By the way, these fenders were purchased as replacements. The ones that came with the AV were chopped off. Interestingly enough, the ones I took off were thinner metal with a reinforced piece around the half-circle opening at the axle, just like the Parts Manual. These replacement fenders are thicker from top to bottom; same thickness as the reinforced area of the other ones. Very heavy and stout.

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Here's the old, right fender. The left fender was just as bad.

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A couple holes with plugs cut ready to be welded.

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A curious hole on the top of the rolled fender. Looked like someone punched this straight through. Made the sheet metal pucker on the other side.

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After being punched back flush. The hole was about 3/8", but I drilled it out to 1/2" so I could use a 1/2" rod for a plug. Nice and flush.

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All welded in place.

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Other holes plugged and welded; one sanded.

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Using a twisted wire wheel on an angle grinder.

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Done with the major stripping.

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A little Bondo to fill in the minor pits and holes.

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Primed.


I'm using Krylon primer just to cover these fenders (and the pieces from earlier posts like the floor pan) just as a covering for winter. I don't expect to shoot paint 'til next spring, so don't want these rusting up over the winter months. I'll wipe each piece down, sand and fill where needed, then use the Case-IH primer prior to shooting the 2150 red.

Thanks for following along.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Jim Becker » Thu Dec 05, 2019 11:34 pm

Stanton wrote:. . . Interestingly enough, the ones I took off were thinner metal with a reinforced piece around the half-circle opening at the axle, just like the Parts Manual. These replacement fenders are thicker from top to bottom; same thickness as the reinforced area of the other ones. Very heavy and stout. . . .

Your replacements are Super A fenders.

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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Fri Dec 06, 2019 7:27 am

Jim Becker wrote:
Stanton wrote:. . . Interestingly enough, the ones I took off were thinner metal with a reinforced piece around the half-circle opening at the axle, just like the Parts Manual. These replacement fenders are thicker from top to bottom; same thickness as the reinforced area of the other ones. Very heavy and stout. . . .

Your replacements are Super A fenders.


Thanks, Jim. I suspected that, but wasn't sure.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:02 pm

Jim Becker wrote:
Stanton wrote:. . . Interestingly enough, the ones I took off were thinner metal with a reinforced piece around the half-circle opening at the axle, just like the Parts Manual. These replacement fenders are thicker from top to bottom; same thickness as the reinforced area of the other ones. Very heavy and stout. . . .

Your replacements are Super A fenders.


Jim is correct. Super A fenders are much thicker and heavier. They also have the 3 holes at the rear for the rockshaft to mount. Farmall 'A' fenders are very thin and lightweight compared to the Super A ones.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Fri Dec 06, 2019 12:55 pm

AL Farmall Boy wrote:...They also have the 3 holes at the rear for the rockshaft to mount...


Thanks. Yeah, I left those trio of holes there in each fender. It was the additional holes that I didn't want there.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:19 pm

Continued work on the gas tank. Decided to wire wheel the bottom to get rid of as much of the body putty as possible. The arrow points to the leak.

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Underside of tank with body putty.

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After wire wheeling.


You can see the PO used a combination of brazing and solder to attach the brackets. My guess is that this tank had a different support structure and had this one put on to fit the AV.

Once it was stripped, I took the gas tank to the local car wash and hit the inside area with the pressure washer. I really aimed at the area where the leak had been; half expecting the bottom to reveal several other pin hole leaks. Never saw one. Brought it back home and set it over a couple boards on saw horses so I could easily see the underside while filling it with water. The lead showed itself in the same place as before; no new leaks.

There is some pitting on the underside near the rear of the tank, but not everywhere.
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Close-up of rear of tank on the underside. Pit holes.


So, I'm still undecided to keep this tank or not. I talked with a fellow IHCC member who recently bought a couple A's for a project. He said he had a couple tanks available. I'll see what condition they are in and then decide what to do.

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Back from the car wash.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:22 pm

In the meanwhile, I started working on the fan hub.
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Gunky fan hub.

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Time to let the oil out.

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The hub axle had a burr on it.

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Getting it cleaned up.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby ricky racer » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:27 pm

Man, you do good work Stanton!!
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:22 am

ricky racer wrote:Man, you do good work Stanton!!


Thank you.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby AL Farmall Boy » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:23 pm

Stanton wrote:In the meanwhile, I started working on the fan hub.
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Was the fan leaking or frozen up? What all do you have to do to rebuild them? Just replace the o-ring, gasket, and polish that shaft a little? I've never opened one up, just replaced them.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:29 pm

AL Farmall Boy wrote:Was the fan leaking or frozen up? What all do you have to do to rebuild them? Just replace the o-ring, gasket, and polish that shaft a little? I've never opened one up, just replaced them.


I had put oil in the hub when the fan was still attached to the tractor. It began showing signs of leaking then and after I removed it while sitting on the shelf. I'll clean it up and replace the gaskets. That should take care of the oil leak. And while clean, it'll be ready for some primer.
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