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New to Me Farmall AV

Farmall Super A, AV, 100, 130, & 140 1939 - 1973
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Location: Lone Jack, MO

Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:14 pm

Finally got my AV back on all four tires.

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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Bob McCarty » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:55 pm

Looking good, are you leaving the engine and frame black?
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Dale Finch » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:34 pm

That is one mean-looking machine!!
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:53 pm

Bob McCarty wrote:Looking good, are you leaving the engine and frame black?


Thanks, yes. Similar to the Farmall H I did.

Will work toward getting the mag on and a pony tank so I can start the engine.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby randallc » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:29 am

That tractor looks great and your shop looks great.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:15 pm

The floor pan had a bunch of deep pits. Decided to fill in some of them with Bondo--hope I don't regret this. Didn't fill them all in or tried to get it perfectly flat, just reduce them somewhat. Orbital sander works good to take off the extra.

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Primed and painted several pieces over the weekend. Highs were in the upper 50's/low 60's. Unseasonably warm means good painting days.

Got the floor pan primed. Had a spray can of Case-IH 2150 red, so went ahead and shot some small pieces. Will do some more assembly later in the week.

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The sheet metal piece that looks like a pointer pointing straight down is the radiator base; the crank handle slides through the opening to access the crank pulley. It's a new piece I had to make and still have to bend it up and weld on a nut to support the bottom of the nose grille assembly. Not ready to fit the tank, hood and grille on yet, so am temporarily leaving that piece pointing down.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Super A » Mon Nov 25, 2019 8:26 am

Still enjoying this thread.....every time you post an update it reminds me of how much I want a Super AV...... :roll:

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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:44 am

Super A wrote:Still enjoying this thread.....every time you post an update it reminds me of how much I want a Super AV...... :roll:

Al


There has been times working on this that I've wished it was a SAV. But this is the one I brung to the dance, so... :D
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby BullDAWG » Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:47 am

Super A wrote:Still enjoying this thread.....every time you post an update it reminds me of how much I want a Super AV...... :roll:

Al

Stanton, gotta say "GREAT WORK" and keep adding pictures. Very informative.

Al, aka Super A, I also am always looking for a SAV-140 Hi-Crop. My ultimate find would be one set up for sugar cane w/ A-6 toolbar and all the equipment with it. I would luv to totally restore my SA and my SAV or hi crop, but I also would be using them almost daily so I'm more into the function/mechanicals than the looks side as I luv seeing a good paint job on these. I just know though that like a new 4x4, its that first scratch that hurts the most. I cleaned and painted everything on my 1950 SA but never added decals to my gal as it doesn't help plow better, cutivate any differently etc and would almost not want to use em if they looked floor room fresh. I totally love seeing these ole tractors looking like new. But I really really love seeing my 70 year old tractor doing what it was made for and still doing a better job than a new similar one that costs $20-30,000 today and their implements costing way too much too. For the price of a new JD 4044M I could get 2-3 cubs an SA & SAV/Hi-Crop w/ 1000 loader and every implement I could ever need for cheaper than just the JD tractor, not even adding the FEL or implements. And tractors today (especially JD) make it where they shut down and you need to call and get a service call ($$$) for things that "IF" they would let us see the code thrown could fix in a heartbeat but instead they want us to PAY them to even add antifreeze if it ran low and have to reset the computer... (A friend had to pay close to $300 for a gallon of antifreeze and get tractor computer rebooted cuz he used it in hot weather) I can't believe how they think making these new machines like this is helping the farmer or reducing costs for anyone that eats food.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:46 pm

Thanks for the comments.

Started working on the gas tank this afternoon.

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Exterior top of tank is fine. No dents or dings.

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Bottom of tank has body putty on it; covering something.

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Body putty.

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Body putty.

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Inside debris.

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Body putty chipped away to reveal soldering.

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Wired wheeled down at corner.


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The Parts book doesn't show the brackets; hidden by tank.


It appears that the (2) brackets where soldered on at some point and someone wanted to cover the soldering up with body putty (did a poor job of it). What I still need to do is fill it up with water and see if it leaks at all. Assuming it doesn't leak, my question is: Should I go ahead with cleaning and prepping this tank or replace with another (better) used one?

The inside is somewhat rusty and I'll probably want to use a gas tank liner or something to mitigate the particles. What do ya all think?
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1961 cub c2 belly mower and full blade. 48 cub manual lift with cultivators.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby randallc » Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:17 am

If you can find a better one. But, some good cleaning, prevent any rust build up inside, there is no doubt you'll make it look like new.
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:34 pm

Now, don't laugh, but this is how I do sheet metal repair.

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First I even up and square off the cut opening.

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Then I mark the opening on a scrap piece of sheet metal of the same thickness. I need a little longer piece to create the bottom edge that's turned.

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Here's the marked piece with a dashed line to represent the bend. I'll cut that line about 1/2 way through.

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The rough cut piece needs further fitting.

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You can see I cut about 1/2 way through the dashed line, now am bending it in my vise.

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A 90 degree bend.

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A little long in the tooth here. Will need to cut some off the top.

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Yeah, like I said, "Don't laugh!" especially at my welds! The cut/bent part is now reinforced with the first weld. Additional welds to be built up here.

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Got the top trimmed down so the bottom of the new piece is in line with the existing fender.

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Put a square on the other end to determine where the flat part ends and curved part begins. With the 90 degee edge of the square right on the end of the flat part, the 45 degree line falls just through the middle of the bolt hole (on the left).

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Flipping the square around, I put the 45 degree part of the square through the bolt hole on that side and mark the approximate area where the flat part of the new piece needs to start curving.

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I mark that place and need to cut a wedge out to get the flat bottom to start curving up to meet the existing curved part of the fender.

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Bench vice is used to force the wedge closed. This will be welded up later.

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As you can see, the flat part on the right and the curved part on the left is now lined up, ready to weld in place.

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Welded.

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Sanded front side.

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Sanded back side.


Was pretty pleased overall. Not perfection, but nothing I do is. It will be better than an ugly notch there. :)
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Dale Finch » Sun Dec 01, 2019 5:53 pm

A-#1 job there, Shane!! The planning is probably the biggest part!
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Stanton » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:09 pm

Dale Finch wrote:A-#1 job there, Shane!! The planning is probably the biggest part!


Uh, point of clarification: I’m not, nor ever will be, at Shane’s level of expertise.
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'55 Cub #191739 "Bertha" with Woods 42 mower
'56 Cub #194370 "Boris" with Mott Flail mower
Circle of Safety: Y
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Re: New to Me Farmall AV

Postby Dale Finch » Sun Dec 01, 2019 6:14 pm

:oops: OOPS! Sorry about that! So used to seeing his projects, I guess! Good job, STANTON! :hattip:
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