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jdeere86
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radiator leak

Postby jdeere86 » Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:48 pm

hey all

well I was proud to get the 12v conversion done on the 140 until I noticed in doing so that I caused a small radiator leak. it is leaking from the bolt where the top generator bracket attaches. the bolt was rounded so i was unable to remove it but was able to move the bracket up and down and in doing so caused a small leak. no idea that would happen. below is photo with an arrow pointing to the bolt where the leak is coming from. considering it is good and rounded and i do need the tractor for work soon does anyone think i can put some sort of sealant around the bolt to stop the leak.... otherwise id have to take the fan off it seems like and figure out a way to get that bolt out
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Re: radiator leak

Postby Slim140 » Tue Apr 05, 2022 5:49 am

You may can clean it real good and put some silicone on it and band aid it for a bit. That's your water pump.
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Re: radiator leak

Postby inairam » Tue Apr 05, 2022 6:14 am

I replaced water pumps on a 130 and 140 and was able to source both from Steiner.

They are a few different pumps for the c-123 so make sure you are getting the one you need.
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Re: radiator leak

Postby jdeere86 » Tue Apr 05, 2022 7:35 am

i tried a little sealant around the bolt -- don't think that will work --- here's a question -- since its not leaking like crazy and my main concern is leaking the antifreeze into my planting furrow could i just drain radiator and fill with water and run it that way?

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Re: radiator leak

Postby Slim140 » Tue Apr 05, 2022 7:54 am

jdeere86 wrote:i tried a little sealant around the bolt -- don't think that will work --- here's a question -- since its not leaking like crazy and my main concern is leaking the antifreeze into my planting furrow could i just drain radiator and fill with water and run it that way?

As long as it's not getting below freezing in your area anytime soon and you change it back to antifreeze before it does freeze. Otherwise you'll have so many leaks the whole thing will look like a sprinkler.
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Re: radiator leak

Postby jdeere86 » Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:05 am

Slim140 wrote:
jdeere86 wrote:i tried a little sealant around the bolt -- don't think that will work --- here's a question -- since its not leaking like crazy and my main concern is leaking the antifreeze into my planting furrow could i just drain radiator and fill with water and run it that way?

As long as it's not getting below freezing in your area anytime soon and you change it back to antifreeze before it does freeze. Otherwise you'll have so many leaks the whole thing will look like a sprinkler.


Yeah perhaps that's not worth the risk the way my memory is. Also the radiator plug on my block is rounded so I'm not sure I'd be able to get it fully drained..not sure if that would matter if I got most of the water out and filled with antifreeze

Does anyone know from experience if I am able to get the fan out of the way without taking the radiator off so that i can get at the bolt going into the water pump? thank you

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Re: radiator leak

Postby Slim140 » Tue Apr 05, 2022 8:13 am

jdeere86 wrote:
Slim140 wrote:
jdeere86 wrote:i tried a little sealant around the bolt -- don't think that will work --- here's a question -- since its not leaking like crazy and my main concern is leaking the antifreeze into my planting furrow could i just drain radiator and fill with water and run it that way?

As long as it's not getting below freezing in your area anytime soon and you change it back to antifreeze before it does freeze. Otherwise you'll have so many leaks the whole thing will look like a sprinkler.


Yeah perhaps that's not worth the risk the way my memory is. Also the radiator plug on my block is rounded so I'm not sure I'd be able to get it fully drained..not sure if that would matter if I got most of the water out and filled with antifreeze

Does anyone know from experience if I am able to get the fan out of the way without taking the radiator off so that i can get at the bolt going into the water pump? thank you

It's a lot simpler to pull the radiator.
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Re: radiator leak

Postby SamsFarm » Tue Apr 05, 2022 9:05 pm

If that bolt goes into a water jacket, the bolt will need to come out, be cleaned, the hole cleaned, then dried, and some sealant applied to the treads, reinstalled and let set for the sealant to cure before adding and antifreeze!
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