oil filter housing gasket on 140

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oil filter housing gasket on 140

Postby inairam » Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:26 pm

First oil change on the new to me 140. The parts book says there is a gasket so I get a gasket and filter from Steiner. The gasket has a square profile. I put it in place, put the housing back on taking care to center it, added oil fired it up everything was good.

I drove it around for about 10 minutes and all of a sudden there is oil everywhere. I shut is done. Got a wrench and took off the housing to reseat the seal and crank down the bolt. Proceeded to break the bolt. Got a little too aggressive with the cranking! It was easy to get the broken part out.

I do not know if the bolt had a crack in it and that was the problem. I did notice that there was no gasket in the groove when I took off the cover. So the PO has the same problem I had and tried it without a gasket, was lazy, and just did not have a gasket handy, either way it sealed.

Questions:

1) use a gasket of not on the 140? the square profile of the gasket does not make a lot of sense to me unless it was 1/2 as thick
2) put a small bead of Permatex compound in the grove instead of the gasket
3) look at the spin on filter kits for $100. I would rather not do this. The IH system could work plus I have a bunch of filters

Any suggestions on a technique?

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Re: oil filter housing gasket on 140

Postby Dale Finch » Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:18 pm

I think the 140 is the same as my Super A was...it's possible that the old gasket was still down in the groove. The first time I replaced my filter, the housing didn't fit right, and this was the advice I got. I really didn't believe it, but I poked into the groove, and sure enough, there was a gasket down there. I dug it out, wiped the groove clean, and installed the new one. Worked great. If installed correctly, the gasket is just below the edge of the groove.
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Re: oil filter housing gasket on 140

Postby Gary Dotson » Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:49 am

I'm with Dale, there is most likely an old gasket hiding in the groove.

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Re: oil filter housing gasket on 140

Postby Slim140 » Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:11 am

I agree with them, old gasket is in the groove and it’s hard as a rock. Dig it out.
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Re: oil filter housing gasket on 140

Postby Saucymynx » Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:52 pm

I had a similar experience. Try as I might I could never get that gasket to seat properly. I finally gave up and went with the spin on filter adapter. No mor leaks, at least from there. I would much rather have the original set up, but would also rather not have oil on the floor.

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Tractors Owned: 1948 6v - Dozer
1949 with kub klipper belly mower. mag 6v - Mom
1950 with plow, 54 blade, mott mag 6v - Roxanne
1953 54 blade, c22, wood 42 6v
1957 6v - barn Queen
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower 12 v - Loboy
1974 Horse II 12 v c-2
1975 with woods 42-6 12 v - Horse
1979 long strip 12 v stuck engine
130 with international 1000 loader 6 v
1969 140 with bush hog tow behind mower 12 v
Terramite T-6 4WD Backhoe Perkins diesel
Memberships: Rough and Tumble Engineers Historical Association;Chapter 8 IH Collectors; IH Collectors Worldwide
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Location: Glen Mills PA

Re: oil filter housing gasket on 140

Postby inairam » Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:23 pm

OK so with a drill then a dremal, and denal picks, the little tool with a bent tip I got the carbon of the old seal out. I say caborn becuase the seal was not coming out in pieces more like black dust. It was in there I just did not see it. There is still a little in the back near the block but it was hot and I did not want to do something stupid. The seal went in and the cover seated. No oil rain. I need to run it some more tomorrow to make sure but I think I am good.

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