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Head bolt removal fear....conquered
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Head bolt removal fear....conquered
Today was the day I faced my fears...I got the head off with out breaking any bolts!!....victory!!....I had to see what I was working with...here's a few pics...I noticed my pistons aren't flat on top....the head gasket was all steel...i got an engine gasket set to throw in there when I get time. I just buttoned everything back up for now until I can get to it...
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Re: Head bolt removal fear....conquered
Yeah I'll consider this a small victory....still alot to be done. My biggest fear was breaking a head bolt..lol.
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Re: Head bolt removal fear....conquered
Your tractor looks to be an early one. The domed pistons were not introduced until 1968 so at some point your engine was rebuilt/ pistons replaced.
When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!
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Re: Head bolt removal fear....conquered
The serial number says its a 1951...I didn't know that about the pistons....I thought it looked pretty clean to be 70 some years old... haha
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Re: Head bolt removal fear....conquered
Anyone think it would be OK to use the same head bolts since the motor was re built??...they all seemed fine to me. They either didn't have sealer on the threads or the sealer stayed down in the bottom. They all came out clean.
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Re: Head bolt removal fear....conquered
Maybe the rebuilder thought the same thing. If it was me, I’d replace them.
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Re: Head bolt removal fear....conquered
That's very true Don.....I should get grade 8 stainless??...I guess I could order a set.. but I like going to our local hardware store...they have nuts and bolts for miles...haha
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Re: Head bolt removal fear....conquered
The picture of the piston looks like it's stamped .040 which means the engine was bored that when the domed pistons were installed.
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Re: Head bolt removal fear....conquered
Leewebb7 wrote:That's very true Don.....I should get grade 8 stainless??...I guess I could order a set.. but I like going to our local hardware store...they have nuts and bolts for miles...haha
Others will have suggestions on what to get and where to get them.
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Re: Head bolt removal fear....conquered
Bob, what does .040 mean??...sorry I'm not similar with rebuilding engines.
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Re: Head bolt removal fear....conquered
It means that the cylinder was bored .040" over standard. The piston and rings would then also be oversize to match the bore size. I'm not sure that stainless steel is appropriate for the head bolts, but someone can confirm or correct that statement.
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Re: Head bolt removal fear....conquered
Looks like several valves have been replaced too. There are 2 flavors of intake valve and 3 of exhaust.
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Re: Head bolt removal fear....conquered
Which ones are intake and which ones are exhaust??
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Re: Head bolt removal fear....conquered
From either end:
E I I E E I I E
Look at openings from the valves to the manifold. Half of them line up with manifold passages to the exhaust, the other half toward the carburetor.
E I I E E I I E
Look at openings from the valves to the manifold. Half of them line up with manifold passages to the exhaust, the other half toward the carburetor.
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