This site uses cookies to maintain login information on FarmallCub.Com. Click the X in the banner upper right corner to close this notice. For more information on our privacy policy, visit this link: Privacy Policy
NEW REGISTERED MEMBERS: Be sure to check your SPAM/JUNK folders for the activation email.
Hole in engine block...
Forum rules
Notice: For sale and wanted posts are not allowed in this forum. Please use our free classifieds or one of our site sponsors for your tractor and parts needs.
Notice: For sale and wanted posts are not allowed in this forum. Please use our free classifieds or one of our site sponsors for your tractor and parts needs.
-
- Cub Star
- Posts: 153
- Joined: Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:13 pm
- Zip Code: 27299
Hole in engine block...
poking around in my new to me 1951 cub I took the side cover off...and found what appears to be a hole. looks like its located behind the front cover.. The tractor does not run , I just pushed it off the trailer yesterday...
- Attachments
-
- 20231128_120234.jpg (113.38 KiB) Viewed 568 times
-
- 10+ Years
- Posts: 6776
- Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:34 am
- Zip Code: 27517
- Tractors Owned: '51 Cub #140966 "Bruno" with Woods 59 mower
'55 Cub #187541 "Betty" with Fast Hitch
'55 Cub #190482 "Ben" with Woods 42 mower
'55 Cub #191739 "Bertha" with Woods 42 mower
'56 Cub #194370 "Boris" with Mott Flail mower - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: NC, Chapel Hill
Re: Hole in engine block...
I commented on your introduction post... I'm pretty sure that is just the way the block was cast.
-
- 10+ Years
- Posts: 4222
- Joined: Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:26 pm
- Zip Code: 61722
Re: Hole in engine block...
rather odd to see that in there! are there any pieces laying around the hole? -- or in the oil? drain the oil and screen it. Might find something that way.
-
- Cub Star
- Posts: 153
- Joined: Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:13 pm
- Zip Code: 27299
Re: Hole in engine block...
I didnt see any peices laying around ....the oil on stick the looks new and clean but that doesnt mean there might not be something ( a piece) in the bottom of the pan...when I get a chance ill drain it and strain it...im tinkering on this in my backyard...its hard to tinker when its cold and windy lol
-
- 10+ Years
- Posts: 1148
- Joined: Sun Feb 02, 2003 6:51 pm
- Zip Code: 21228
- Tractors Owned: 1948 Farmall Cub
LT1045 Cub Cadet - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: MD, Catonsville
Re: Hole in engine block...
That opening is in the front crankcase wall of the engine casting. Attached is a photo showing that opening. It is is to the right and below the crankcase ventilation opening, which I was in the process of drilling out when I took this photo.
Bill VanHooser
Cub 54 Blade, Cub 193 Moldboard Plow, Cub 28A Disc Harrow
![Circle of Safety](../safetyquiz/cos_avatar.png)
Cub 54 Blade, Cub 193 Moldboard Plow, Cub 28A Disc Harrow
![Circle of Safety](../safetyquiz/cos_avatar.png)
-
- Cub Star
- Posts: 153
- Joined: Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:13 pm
- Zip Code: 27299
Re: Hole in engine block...
Ok so it's supposed to be there??....that make s me feel a little better.... I'm a first time cub owner...so this is all new to me....I figured even if it wasn't supposed to be there...I don't think it would hurt anything where it was.
-
- Team Cub Mentor
- Posts: 17672
- Joined: Mon Feb 03, 2003 6:45 am
- Zip Code: 21550
- Tractors Owned: "1950 Something" Farmall Cub
1957 Farmall Cub w/FH
1977 International Cub w/FH
1978 International Cub
1948 Farmall Super A - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: MD, Deep Creek Lake
Re: Hole in engine block...
Bill, just out of curiosity, why did you need to drill the ventilation tube opening out?
-
- 10+ Years
- Posts: 6257
- Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:33 pm
- Zip Code: 00000
- Tractors Owned: 1956 Farmall Cub with Fast Hitch, F-11 plow, Disc, Cultivator, Cub-22 mower
- Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: Wa.
Re: Hole in engine block...
Hi,
Some of the openings cast in the block, behind the valve cover, look sort of rough, it is how they are made.
While the valve cover is off is a good time to adjust the valve clearance.
The valve clearance between the valve lifters and end of the valve stems is manually adjusted.
If nobody adjusts them, the clearance can get too small.
The valve clearance is .013", you need a flat feeler gauge to check them.
Be sure the valve lifters are fully down before checking the clearance.
All the valves cannot be closed at the same time, you have to turn the engine to make the valves close.
The hand crank is handy for that, if you have one, if you don't have one, try using the fan to turn the engine.
Below is a page from the 1955 Cub operator's manual telling how to set the valves.
https://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.cle ... age-44.jpg
If you are going to remove the engine for rebuilding, and valve work, you could check the clearance after that too.![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
Some of the openings cast in the block, behind the valve cover, look sort of rough, it is how they are made.
While the valve cover is off is a good time to adjust the valve clearance.
The valve clearance between the valve lifters and end of the valve stems is manually adjusted.
If nobody adjusts them, the clearance can get too small.
The valve clearance is .013", you need a flat feeler gauge to check them.
Be sure the valve lifters are fully down before checking the clearance.
All the valves cannot be closed at the same time, you have to turn the engine to make the valves close.
The hand crank is handy for that, if you have one, if you don't have one, try using the fan to turn the engine.
Below is a page from the 1955 Cub operator's manual telling how to set the valves.
https://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.cle ... age-44.jpg
If you are going to remove the engine for rebuilding, and valve work, you could check the clearance after that too.
![Smile :)](./images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
-
- Cub Star
- Posts: 153
- Joined: Mon Nov 27, 2023 6:13 pm
- Zip Code: 27299
Re: Hole in engine block...
Great info....thanks!...yeah I saw the hole it looked pretty rough.....my heart dropped for a second...lol
-
- 10+ Years
- Posts: 6257
- Joined: Mon Mar 19, 2012 7:33 pm
- Zip Code: 00000
- Tractors Owned: 1956 Farmall Cub with Fast Hitch, F-11 plow, Disc, Cultivator, Cub-22 mower
- Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: Wa.
Re: Hole in engine block...
Hi,
The Cub operator's manual can help you learn about maintenance that the Cub needs.
The 1952 Cub operator's manual is at the upper left of the page, at Quick links, then go to PDF Manuals.
The experts on here recommend people read it. It has lots of info about operation, maintenance, and lubrication. There is a table of contents on page 1.
It shows how Cubs originally looked in it. The lube section begins on page 14.
I can't post the manual here.
It shows the electrical system that a 1952 Cub originally had.
Cubs made before mid 1964 originally had 6 volt, positive ground electrical systems.
They have said on here that IH didn't make a new operator's manual every year.
I sent you a PM, you get to it at the top of the page.
Below is a post that I wrote on, with info about priming the engine oil pump, like he said to do at your other post. The engine can be damaged running it with no oil pressure.
My post is part way down the page.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=91765&start=60
The Cub operator's manual can help you learn about maintenance that the Cub needs.
The 1952 Cub operator's manual is at the upper left of the page, at Quick links, then go to PDF Manuals.
The experts on here recommend people read it. It has lots of info about operation, maintenance, and lubrication. There is a table of contents on page 1.
It shows how Cubs originally looked in it. The lube section begins on page 14.
I can't post the manual here.
It shows the electrical system that a 1952 Cub originally had.
Cubs made before mid 1964 originally had 6 volt, positive ground electrical systems.
They have said on here that IH didn't make a new operator's manual every year.
I sent you a PM, you get to it at the top of the page.
Below is a post that I wrote on, with info about priming the engine oil pump, like he said to do at your other post. The engine can be damaged running it with no oil pressure.
My post is part way down the page.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=91765&start=60
-
- 10+ Years
- Posts: 1148
- Joined: Sun Feb 02, 2003 6:51 pm
- Zip Code: 21228
- Tractors Owned: 1948 Farmall Cub
LT1045 Cub Cadet - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: MD, Catonsville
Re: Hole in engine block...
Don McCombs wrote:Bill, just out of curiosity, why did you need to drill the ventilation tube opening out?
The opening had a stuck hex plug when I got the tractor. I knew it didn’t have to be removed, but I was in the process of removing other stuck, oil galley plugs, so what the heck. Now the crankcase is vented to the air cleaner. Whether it works or not, I think it should until the line becomes plugged.
Bill VanHooser
Cub 54 Blade, Cub 193 Moldboard Plow, Cub 28A Disc Harrow
![Circle of Safety](../safetyquiz/cos_avatar.png)
Cub 54 Blade, Cub 193 Moldboard Plow, Cub 28A Disc Harrow
![Circle of Safety](../safetyquiz/cos_avatar.png)
-
- Team Cub
- Posts: 24337
- Joined: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:39 pm
- Zip Code: 45030
- Tractors Owned: At This Time
40 Farmall Cubs (Round Hood)
2 Farmall Cub (Square Hood)
2 IH Cubs (Square Hood)
5 Lo-Boys (Round Hood)
2 Lo-Boys (Square Hood)
2 Farmall 404's
1 Farmall H
1 Ferguson 20
1 Cub Cadet 125
1 Kubota B-7100 - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: OH, New Haven (Hamilton County)
Re: Hole in engine block...
Just curious as to what that hole is for.
There are two ways to get enough Cubs. One is to continue to accumulate more and more. The other is to desire less.
![Circle of Safety](../safetyquiz/cos_avatar.png)
![Circle of Safety](../safetyquiz/cos_avatar.png)
-
- 10+ Years
- Posts: 1782
- Joined: Thu Oct 26, 2006 7:17 pm
- Zip Code: 44657
- Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: Minerva,Ohio
Re: Hole in engine block...
Barnyard wrote:Just curious as to what that hole is for.
Just a guess, would it be there to equalize pressure in the crankcase? Or the front cover?
'49 Cub (Vince)
'41 allis B with Woods L59 mower
656 Wheel Horse with 42” sickle mower
C-165 Wheel Horse
Simplicity 20 HP Sunstar
Honda 48” walk behind mower
'41 allis B with Woods L59 mower
656 Wheel Horse with 42” sickle mower
C-165 Wheel Horse
Simplicity 20 HP Sunstar
Honda 48” walk behind mower
-
- Team Cub Mentor
- Posts: 5720
- Joined: Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:20 am
- Zip Code: 43358
- Tractors Owned: 48 Cub Diesel (Cubota)
53 Cockshutt 20 restored (Shooter)
52 Cockshutt 20 unrestored
47 Leader "B" (Herckie)
49 Leader "D" (Princess)
49 Leader "D" very rough
48 Leader "D" unrestored
Kubota B6200E
Kubota B6200HST
Kubota B8200HST-D - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: OH West Mansfield
Re: Hole in engine block...
My guess is that it has no purpose at all, just didn’t need material there. It’s just the way the molds are made.
-
- Team Cub
- Posts: 17377
- Joined: Sun Feb 02, 2003 2:59 pm
- Zip Code: 55319
- Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: MN
Re: Hole in engine block...
Gary Dotson wrote:My guess is that it has no purpose at all, just didn’t need material there. It’s just the way the molds are made.
Possibly a connection between parts of the mold so the mold wouldn't collapse before the iron was poured in.
-
- Similar Topics
- Replies
- Views
- Last post
-
- 4
- 537
-
by NJ Farmer
Mon Feb 07, 2022 11:56 am
-
- 19
- 694
-
by Jim Becker
Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:16 pm
-
- 13
- 445
-
by SamsFarm
Fri Dec 31, 2021 5:55 pm
-
-
Early engine block change to strenghen break prone front ear
by staninlowerAL » Thu Dec 16, 2021 10:24 am » in Farmall Cub - 2
- 369
-
by radioguy41
Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:54 am
-
-
- 19
- 486
-
by outdoors4evr
Fri Jun 16, 2023 1:32 pm
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests