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Trailer to transport cubs

Postby BOB K. » Tue Jun 20, 2023 11:19 pm

I am moving down south to NC. I am buying a new 20" 7000# trailer to transport a car and my cubs. Wife thinks I am crazy. LOL Any way 1- cub has rear weights and a 60" mower and the other has rear weights and a 1000 loader. If I measured correctly they both will fit. I figure to put the one with the mower facing forward on first. Then back the other one one till tire meet and the bucket should just fit on the deck. Was thinking and it might not be necessary but taking 2 pieces of 1/2" plate which I have and bolting the 2 drawbars together so they would not bang off each other or move? Most of the weight should be close to the axles. Any thoughts or ideas? Picking the trailer up the middle of July.

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Re: Trailer to transport cubs

Postby Cubfriend » Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:44 am

I’m guessing your loader Cub is heavier. Therefore, I would put it on first to keep the tounge weight on the heavier side. Then put the mower Cub on the back. You don’t want your load to be rear heavy and start swaying you back and forth until you lose control. Tractors back to back is OK. I assume you are pulling the trailer with a pickup. Lots of tiedown chains or straps. Be safe!
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Re: Trailer to transport cubs

Postby staninlowerAL » Wed Jun 21, 2023 2:57 am

Cubfriend wrote:I’m guessing your loader Cub is heavier. Therefore, I would put it on first to keep the tounge weight on the heavier side. Then put the mower Cub on the back. You don’t want your load to be rear heavy and start swaying you back and forth until you lose control. Tractors back to back is OK. I assume you are pulling the trailer with a pickup. Lots of tiedown chains or straps. Be safe!

:Dito: to all these suggestions. Make sure the tiedowns are in forward AND rear directions for both tractors. Take impact situations into consideration, you don't want ANYTHING to move. PERIOD!!!! Towing is not nearly as critical as stopping in an emergency situation. :hattip: JMHO. Stan
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Re: Trailer to transport cubs

Postby Don McCombs » Wed Jun 21, 2023 5:57 am

Here's a discussion on weight distribution...

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=92660&hilit=weight+distribution
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Re: Trailer to transport cubs

Postby inairam » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:26 am

My first inclination is sell the car so there is more than enough room for the cubs.

My second is not to bolt them together. I am not 100% on this but here is my reasoning:

The finals are cast. Bolting the drawbars together will make the two cubs act like one long bean and most of the bending in a beam is in the middle. All of that driving and flexing could cause cracks in the finals. Do not know for a fact it was just my first thought when I read that. If you strap them together that would not happen.

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Re: Trailer to transport cubs

Postby ajhbike » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:53 am

Why not take the drawbars off?

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Re: Trailer to transport cubs

Postby Gary Dotson » Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:37 am

I think the loader may be the fly in the ointment and may dictate that they be loaded a specific way. But as mentioned above, you don’t want to make a long haul, like you’re preparing for, with a tail heavy load. You don’t want the tail to wag the dog. I think you will probably be okay, backing the loader Cub on last, the loader bucket isn’t really that heavy. You might want to load it and do a test tow, to see how it behaves. Enjoy the new trailer! In the words of George Willer, every man should own a couple trailers and at least one license plate.

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Re: Trailer to transport cubs

Postby Don McCombs » Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:02 am

Depending on how much weight you are likely to tow over the life of the trailer and the type of tow vehicle, you may want to consider a load leveling hitch.
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Re: Trailer to transport cubs

Postby Barnyard » Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:21 am

Gary Dotson wrote:In the words of George Willer, every man should own a couple trailers and at least one license plate.
:lol:

Remember, a 7,000# rated traile will only carry about 4,800 pounds after factoring in the weight of the trailer itself. You should be close to that with your two tractors, but if you plan to add more to the load, you may want to take that into consideration. Not knowing what the tow vehicle is, but have you considered a 10,000# trailer.
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Re: Trailer to transport cubs

Postby staninlowerAL » Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:38 am

You can take the loaded trailer with the towing vehicle to a place that has truck scales (like some truck stops) and weigh the load to see which end is heavier and redistribute the weight as needed. As has been noted, if the tongue is lighter you will always have sway problems, and greater at higher speeds. JMHO Stan
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Re: Trailer to transport cubs

Postby Peter Person » Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:53 am

Barnyard wrote:
Gary Dotson wrote:In the words of George Willer, every man should own a couple trailers and at least one license plate.
:lol:

Remember, a 7,000# rated trailer will only carry about 4,800 pounds after factoring in the weight of the trailer itself. You should be close to that with your two tractors, but if you plan to add more to the load, you may want to take that into consideration. Not knowing what the tow vehicle is, but have you considered a 10,000# trailer.


I was thinking the same thing. A 20' 7,000lb trailer has to weigh at least 1,600-1,800lbs if it's a decently built trailer. My 16' PJ 7,000lb trailer weighs 1,500lbs.
I wonder how rigid Bob K's trailer is? I remember when I was researching for my trailer, there were 7,000lb trailers built with 3" x 2" x 1/4" angle iron main frame vs my PJ that is built with 4" C-channel. Cross member sizing and spacing was also different in trailer models. Big tare weight difference in the trailers as well.
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Re: Trailer to transport cubs

Postby Denny Clayton » Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:43 am

A 10,000# trailer is a must.
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Re: Trailer to transport cubs

Postby Dale Finch » Wed Jun 21, 2023 9:53 am

On a side note, where in NC are you moving? I'm in Chapel Hill, and if you are close by & need a hand with cub issues or want to have a mini Cubfest, just holler!!

Oh, and the week before & up through the 4th of July, Denton, NC is having their Southeast Old Threshers Reunion:

https://dentonfarmpark.com/southeast-old-threshers-reunion/#:~:text=The%20Southeast%20Old%20Threshers,of%20the%204th%20of%20July.
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Re: Trailer to transport cubs

Postby Clemsonfor » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:15 pm

Barnyard wrote:
Gary Dotson wrote:In the words of George Willer, every man should own a couple trailers and at least one license plate.
:lol:

Remember, a 7,000# rated traile will only carry about 4,800 pounds after factoring in the weight of the trailer itself. You should be close to that with your two tractors, but if you plan to add more to the load, you may want to take that into consideration. Not knowing what the tow vehicle is, but have you considered a 10,000# trailer.

I am surprised that there is a 20ft trailer with a 7000# capacity. That's seems like it has undersized axles and construction for it's actual deck size. As he says you don't have 7000# you have 7000- the weight of the trailer. BUT you can actually add the tongue weight technically back to the trailer as the tow vehicle is actually carrying that weight this is probably not the legal way because the weight is pushing down on the deck of the trailer.

The two cubs with any implements and things will probably be at or over capacity. I personally would not want to make a long trip especially on the interstate with a max loaded trailer. As a worry some person if you get into a wreck over loaded it won't be good.

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Re: Trailer to transport cubs

Postby Clemsonfor » Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:17 pm

Dale Finch wrote:On a side note, where in NC are you moving? I'm in Chapel Hill, and if you are close by & need a hand with cub issues or want to have a mini Cubfest, just holler!!

Oh, and the week before & up through the 4th of July, Denton, NC is having their Southeast Old Threshers Reunion:

https://dentonfarmpark.com/southeast-old-threshers-reunion/#:~:text=The%20Southeast%20Old%20Threshers,of%20the%204th%20of%20July.

I wish they wouldn't do that thing on and around a holiday week. Those of us who like to boat and do other things don't want to break away for that.


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