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Yard Ornament

Postby Old Machinist » Thu Dec 01, 2022 6:14 pm

Bought a rusty cub for a yard ornament the other day.

Have been passively looking for a Super A but not wanting to pay for a good running model so I probably won't find one. Had a inquiry on one through FB that looked to be a complete tractor that was just faded but the guy wouldn't ever reply.

I grew up tending fields and pulling tobacco sleds with a Super A.

I own a John Deere 4310 CUT and a Ford/New Holland 575E backhoe as functional machines.

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Re: Yard Ornament

Postby Bill V in Md » Thu Dec 01, 2022 7:34 pm

Welcome to the Forum. Check out the below link from fellow member, Barnyard, on how to attach photos to your posts:
http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=148&t=110427
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Re: Yard Ornament

Postby Old Machinist » Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:50 am

Thanks. Each forum seems to work a little different.

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Re: Yard Ornament

Postby Old Machinist » Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:58 am

I put a pair of large Channel-Loc pliers on the crank the other day and low and behold the engine would turn over. Not only that but it seemed to come up tight every 180 degrees like it has compression. I didn't turn it but a couple revolutions. I noticed yesterday it has one spark plug laying on top connected to one of the wires so I recon that cylinder can't have any compression right now. :)

One day I need to pull the hood, clean off the bird's nest, and oil the cylinders to preserve them. Any suggestions on the best oil to preserve this old engine. I will probably just use a heavy motor oil unless someone has a better suggestion.

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Re: Yard Ornament

Postby Eugene » Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:07 am

Old Machinist wrote:I will probably just use a heavy motor oil unless someone has a better suggestion.
Welcome.
Any on hand engine oil will work.
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Re: Yard Ornament

Postby staninlowerAL » Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:32 am

Welcome to the forum. Nice looking older model cub, any idea what the SN is or any casting codes? The pipe exhaust and elbows offer some protection from water getting into the cylinders. You might have one that could be brought back to life, I've seen worse that has been given another chance.
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Re: Yard Ornament

Postby Old Machinist » Fri Dec 02, 2022 1:52 pm

staninlowerAL wrote:Welcome to the forum. Nice looking older model cub, any idea what the SN is or any casting codes? The pipe exhaust and elbows offer some protection from water getting into the cylinders. You might have one that could be brought back to life, I've seen worse that has been given another chance. 4OdomCub.JPG


The serial number plate is missing and no sign of the rivets even exist. Not sure where to look for casting numbers. Would those give any indication of age?

It's very rusty and a striped down manual lift model. No PTO or anything. Not sure it's worth messing with but I will probably try to get it running since the engine turns. Not anytime soon.

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Re: Yard Ornament

Postby Peter Person » Fri Dec 02, 2022 3:41 pm

Welcome to the forum.
TM Tractor, one of the site sponsors, has a wealth of information for identifying what year your tractor is.
Here is a link to the Casting Codes;
http://www.tmtractor.com/id/id_004.htm

Also, now that you have 2 posts, you can access the PDF Manuals on this site.
Top left of page is the Quick Links. Click on that and near the bottom of the list is "PDF Manuals"

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Re: Yard Ornament

Postby staninlowerAL » Fri Dec 02, 2022 5:26 pm

Old Machinist wrote:..........The serial number plate is missing and no sign of the rivets even exist. Not sure where to look for casting numbers. Would those give any indication of age?
It's very rusty and a striped down manual lift model. No PTO or anything. Not sure it's worth messing with but I will probably try to get it running since the engine turns. Not anytime soon.

Peter has you covered on a source of info to ID the tractor. Hydraulics became available in the 2nd year of production (I think), but manual lift was also available as was the PTO option. Changes were made over the years of production and a lot of this information is listed in Raymond Durban's database at the beginning of this forum. Obviously there's a wealth of information from members of this forum who are eager and willing to share their knowledge.
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Re: Yard Ornament

Postby SamsFarm » Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:11 pm

You might just find with a little tinkering you have a good running tractor!
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Re: Yard Ornament

Postby Waif » Sat Dec 03, 2022 2:19 pm

Congrats!

It probably won't run without a fuel line to carburetor.
But park it in neutral just in case!

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Re: Yard Ornament

Postby Old Machinist » Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:59 am

Peter Person wrote:Welcome to the forum.
TM Tractor, one of the site sponsors, has a wealth of information for identifying what year your tractor is.
Here is a link to the Casting Codes;
http://www.tmtractor.com/id/id_004.htm

Also, now that you have 2 posts, you can access the PDF Manuals on this site.
Top left of page is the Quick Links. Click on that and near the bottom of the list is "PDF Manuals"

Have fun!
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Looks like this was built in March, 1950. Casting numbers all start with a 3. The engine number is not a clear T but the trans tunnel and hub numbers all have a clear T.

Engine casting #
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Engine stamped #
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Trans Tunnel casting #1
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Trans Tunnel casting #2
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Re: Yard Ornament

Postby Jim Becker » Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:25 pm

I read that engine number as 108874. If that is correct, it likely tracks to an April 1950 build.

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Re: Yard Ornament

Postby Old Machinist » Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:44 pm

Jim Becker wrote:I read that engine number as 108874. If that is correct, it likely tracks to an April 1950 build.


Looking back at the information at http://www.tmtractor.com/id/id_004.htm all the casting dates could either be 50 or 72.

Where do I look for a numerical breakdown? The engine serial number link just shows where they are located.
http://www.tmtractor.com/id/id_003.htm

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Re: Yard Ornament

Postby Old Machinist » Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:41 pm

Old Machinist wrote:
Jim Becker wrote:I read that engine number as 108874. If that is correct, it likely tracks to an April 1950 build.


Looking back at the information at http://www.tmtractor.com/id/id_004.htm all the casting dates could either be 50 or 72.

Where do I look for a numerical breakdown? The engine serial number link just shows where they are located.
http://www.tmtractor.com/id/id_003.htm



With all the CASTING dates in March it makes sense the assembly date is later.


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