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One thing IH should have gave the Cub
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Re: One thing IH should have gave the Cub
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Re: One thing IH should have gave the Cub
Didn't think of the ZOOM SPOUT. I have one on the shop shelf. Also restore antique sewing machines.
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Re: One thing IH should have gave the Cub
It could have be designed with a cup holder for my beer!!! Damn thing keeps tipping over on the floor!
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Re: One thing IH should have gave the Cub
Did any manufacturer have a diff lock in the 40s?
I'll second having a hood separate from the gas tank. A "normal" PTO would have been nice too.
Of course, all of that is available on the Super A--140, so that's the route I took!
Al
I'll second having a hood separate from the gas tank. A "normal" PTO would have been nice too.
Of course, all of that is available on the Super A--140, so that's the route I took!
Al
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Re: One thing IH should have gave the Cub
Coming off working with a horse or mule to a tractor introduction, when you have a rough or too soft patch of ground , and / or load starting to bind ; how would you react/respond? Stomp on a rear end locker?
I'm no 40's engineer. But wonder if a nagging in the back of the mind wondered about potential rear roll over with a locked rear axle. Or bouncing too heavy on the wild mustang skinny front axle legs if a wheelie was pulled.
Cubs were not intended to be bulldozers. Or tanks. Rather , mechanized single "draft critters".
Comparing to later tractors....Can be a slippery slope unless measured by the design and reason for design originally.
I'll pass on a turbo Cub. Nothing against the idea. Just not a Cub to me.
(Knowing me , in 47 I would have been a skeptic. Let's wait and see how they do after a year or two. )
I'm no 40's engineer. But wonder if a nagging in the back of the mind wondered about potential rear roll over with a locked rear axle. Or bouncing too heavy on the wild mustang skinny front axle legs if a wheelie was pulled.
Cubs were not intended to be bulldozers. Or tanks. Rather , mechanized single "draft critters".
Comparing to later tractors....Can be a slippery slope unless measured by the design and reason for design originally.
I'll pass on a turbo Cub. Nothing against the idea. Just not a Cub to me.
(Knowing me , in 47 I would have been a skeptic. Let's wait and see how they do after a year or two. )
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Re: One thing IH should have gave the Cub
I like them just as they are.
There are two ways to get enough Cubs. One is to continue to accumulate more and more. The other is to desire less.
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Re: One thing IH should have gave the Cub
Barnyard wrote:I like them just as they are.
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Re: One thing IH should have gave the Cub
There's no doubt IH could have added additional features to the Cub but the Cub was meant to be an economical tractor built to a price point that they determined was a sweet spot in the market. I'd say they hit their target.
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Re: One thing IH should have gave the Cub
Every year or two, there's a thread similar to this one. Why didn't IH do this or that on the Cub. Hindsight, especially 75 years of it, is always 20/20. First off, in the mid-40's, when the Cub was conceived of and designed, much of the technology and innovation that is commonplace today, was not even a glimmer in some engineer's eye. Even if it had been, the nation's industrial base, just emerging from WW2, would not have been easily able to transition from producing half-tracks and M1 rifles, to get such a tractor to its intended market. Couple that with the fact that few farmers could have afforded a tractor with all those bells and whistles and the maintenance that would have gone along with it. Particularly, the small acreage farmer to whom the Cub was targeted. The fact that this forum exists, three-quarters of a century from the introduction of the Cub, is testament that those IH ag engineers did a pretty damn good job.
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Re: One thing IH should have gave the Cub
Don McCombs wrote:Every year or two, there's a thread similar to this one. Why didn't IH do this or that on the Cub. Hindsight, especially 75 years of it, is always 20/20. First off, in the mid-40's, when the Cub was conceived of and designed, much of the technology and innovation that is commonplace today, was not even a glimmer in some engineer's eye. Even if it had been, the nation's industrial base, just emerging from WW2, would not have been easily able to transition from producing half-tracks and M1 rifles, to get such a tractor to its intended market. Couple that with the fact that few farmers could have afforded a tractor with all those bells and whistles and the maintenance that would have gone along with it. Particularly, the small acreage farmer to whom the Cub was targeted. The fact that this forum exists, three-quarters of a century from the introduction of the Cub, is testament that those IH ag engineers did a pretty damn good job.
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Re: One thing IH should have gave the Cub
ricky racer wrote:Barnyard wrote:I like them just as they are.
A cub is a cub. It is suppose to be used what it was made for.
I like them just as they are too.
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Re: One thing IH should have gave the Cub
Don McCombs wrote:Every year or two, there's a thread similar to this one. Why didn't IH do this or that on the Cub. Hindsight, especially 75 years of it, is always 20/20. First off, in the mid-40's, when the Cub was conceived of and designed, much of the technology and innovation that is commonplace today, was not even a glimmer in some engineer's eye. Even if it had been, the nation's industrial base, just emerging from WW2, would not have been easily able to transition from producing half-tracks and M1 rifles, to get such a tractor to its intended market. Couple that with the fact that few farmers could have afforded a tractor with all those bells and whistles and the maintenance that would have gone along with it. Particularly, the small acreage farmer to whom the Cub was targeted. The fact that this forum exists, three-quarters of a century from the introduction of the Cub, is testament that those IH ag engineers did a pretty damn good job.
You are pretty much spot on.
I H was a very versatile company, and did some really innovative and impressive things, during some really tough times.
Some where I heard that cubs were only intended to last 7 or 8 years. If this is true they vastly under estimated their service live.
Dad grew up on a farm worked with horses, and used to say how much they would have loved to have a cub on the job..
I really wonder what the farmer thought, that had farmed with horses, and bought a new Cub in the late 40's.
I would have loved to be a fly on the wall, during the supper time conversation with the family. How the tractor would fee up time, that was once spent taking care of horses, that were fed and cared for every day regardless if they worked or not, about a tractor that could work all day with no rest. It would have been an exciting time to be in agriculture..
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Re: One thing IH should have gave the Cub
It is said that my uncle would order Cubs by the railcar load to keep the inventory up at his dealership. That shows how well Cubs were accepted around here just the way they were.
There are two ways to get enough Cubs. One is to continue to accumulate more and more. The other is to desire less.
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Re: One thing IH should have gave the Cub
As I have said before, even with its shortcomings, a Cub could cultivate one row in one pass where it took a mule three passes--one on each side of the row, and then a pass through the middle. That was a huge deal in 1947.
But yes, the one piece hood and gas tank is still a pain.
Al
But yes, the one piece hood and gas tank is still a pain.
Al
White Demo Super A Restoration Updates
Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
Celebrating 75 years of the Super A: 1947-2022
Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
Celebrating 75 years of the Super A: 1947-2022
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Re: One thing IH should have gave the Cub
Barnyard wrote:I like them just as they are.
Dave
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