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Four Bar Grill Screen Question

Postby lyle11 » Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:57 pm

I am installing a woven stainless steel screen in my 4 Bar grill. I’ve had 2 of these grills and the short wires that are used to secure the grill are inserted through and bent over. I have enough of the welded on wires left to secure the grill but few enough that I can’t afford to break any more off. From the parts manual, I didn’t see any reference to a push on retention clip like is used for the emblems. TM carries what they refer to as a 1/8” clip. These wires look to be about 1/16” in diameter.

Does anybody know if there is a press on clip this size that I could use rather than risk breaking the welded wires off? I straightened them enough to get them through the screen. I guess the key to bending them is to hold one end with a needle nose plier to avoid putting stress on the weld. I’m still nervous about bending them back down.

Worst case, I can always secure it with tie wraps around the bars but would like to try first to secure it without doing that.

Thanks

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Re: Four Bar Grill Screen Question

Postby Barnyard » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:00 pm

Take the grill to a hardware store and see if they can match something up for you.
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Re: Four Bar Grill Screen Question

Postby Bob McCarty » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:08 pm

A rectangular push nut might work better. McMaster has a bunch of different sizes. If you need more wires, you could have an auto body shop weld some pins/studs that are used for dent removal onto the back.
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Re: Four Bar Grill Screen Question

Postby Jim Becker » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:45 pm

Try a very small dab of JB Weld so it contacts both the screen and the wire. If placed carefully, you probably won't see it from the front. Any push-on retainer is likely to be obvious.

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Re: Four Bar Grill Screen Question

Postby tst » Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:01 pm

I have welded I think it was a #2 finish nail on, they end easy without breaking

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Re: Four Bar Grill Screen Question

Postby lyle11 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:04 pm

Thanks. Those are some good suggestions. Not sure what I’ll do but I’ll figure something out. I had a welded screen that let too much grass cuttings through to the radiator and broke when a branch pierced it. This finer woven screen should do the trick even if I have to tie wrap it in place.

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Re: Four Bar Grill Screen Question

Postby Drfting1 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:39 pm

Good post, have a "59" that has that grill, when I restore her I'll need to something about the mesh, main grill is fine, but mesh part has some damage
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Re: Four Bar Grill Screen Question

Postby Dale Finch » Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:53 pm

lyle11 wrote:Thanks. Those are some good suggestions. Not sure what I’ll do but I’ll figure something out. I had a welded screen that let too much grass cuttings through to the radiator and broke when a branch pierced it. This finer woven screen should do the trick even if I have to tie wrap it in place.

This certainly won't protect the radiator from those malicious branches, but since I made one of these for each of my tractors, I haven't once in 6 years had to remove the grill to clean the radiator fins.
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I primarily use my tractors for mowing, and was constantly getting grass clippings and seeds sucked into the radiator. Now all I do is unclip the 2 small bungees and shake it out, or more often, brush the screen in place with a soft bench brush or broom!
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Re: Four Bar Grill Screen Question

Postby Gary S. » Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:17 pm

Years ago I bought a car bra for my 59 MGA that had a screen very similar over the grill area. It ran noticeably hotter just by that screen- be careful if your working it hard. After mowing I just use a leaf blower from the back side if anything is in my radiator.

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Re: Four Bar Grill Screen Question

Postby Greenthumbfarms » Mon Jan 31, 2022 5:16 pm

My square nose had an aluminum window screen bolted in behind the original grill, I need to come up with something closer to Dale's design. The first time I mowed with it I near overheated it, not realizing it was plugged up with grass.
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Re: Four Bar Grill Screen Question

Postby Clemsonfor » Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:04 pm

Greenthumbfarms wrote:My square nose had an aluminum window screen bolted in behind the original grill, I need to come up with something closer to Dale's design. The first time I mowed with it I near overheated it, not realizing it was plugged up with grass.

Not on the cub, because I don't work it cutting grass but on my yanmar it has a screen in front of the radiator to catch chafe and fluffy seeds and such but it will sometimes zip tie an old piece of window screen to the grill to catch most of this stuff cause it's easier to knock off outside than to raise the hood and remove the radiator screen. I don't see why it wouldn't work for a cub as well. Won't defend against sticks but stops seeds and grass.


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