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Binky Tremain
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Location: Middletown, Pa

New noise

Postby Binky Tremain » Mon Aug 30, 2021 3:53 pm

Have developed a new noise…comes from up front, up high, generally when throttle is advanced. At first I thought the fan was throwing something around, or the hood had become loose and was clattering…that’s what is sounds like. Does it, stops, does it, stops. Can’t seem to narrow down the source.

Just got her a few days ago, and just started. Thanks all!

indy61
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Re: New noise

Postby indy61 » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:02 pm

Sounds like it might be a bad bearing in the generator or a bad fan hub.

Crimson Tim
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So far, Paul and Ringo have arrived. John and George were supposed to follow ages ago, but apparently have gone awol. Long story.
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Re: New noise

Postby Crimson Tim » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:11 pm

Right side or left side?
Has your fan been oiled recently? Fan shroud loose? Radiator cap askew? Can the fan touch the shroud? Any hood or dogleg fasteners missing? If it still has a generator, those still want a few drops of oil periodically, don’t they? There’s not much stuff high and forward, so it doesn’t seem like it should be too difficult to find. Have you heard the trick about using tubing as a stethoscope to pinpoint where sounds come from?
Also, post a video. Maybe someone will recognize the sound.

Edit: check engine oil and hydraulic fluid and function. Maybe your hydraulic pump drive gear has come loose and is about to fall off the shaft.

Binky Tremain
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Joined: Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:07 am
Zip Code: 19063
Tractors Owned: 1948 Cub
Location: Middletown, Pa

Re: New noise

Postby Binky Tremain » Mon Aug 30, 2021 4:50 pm

Left side, have not oiled fan yet (can’t find screw, unless it’s been painted over). Everything seems tight, nothing missing. Almost sounds like the clattering of the exhaust flapper, but continues when held open. Actually, I can hear it when listening atop the exhaust. Took it off and shook it, but nothing dropped out.

Still trying to pinpoint.

Binky Tremain
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Tractors Owned: 1948 Cub
Location: Middletown, Pa

Re: New noise

Postby Binky Tremain » Mon Aug 30, 2021 5:13 pm

Sor…Have been converted to 12 volts, and have no hydraulics.

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Re: New noise

Postby Pap » Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:07 pm

Hey Binky welcome to the forum. Sounds like you got one of those things that makes it fun to have a Cub.
I'm not going to suggest anything. Sounds like indy61 and Crimson Tim already had some good things for you to do and check.
Good luck I hope that you find out your problem.
Are We Having Fun Yet ? :D
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Re: New noise

Postby CharlieK » Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:44 pm

on my old antiques I was told to turn up the radio
get er done; life is good

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I could not say tractor when I was 2 years old so I called it Err Err.

I loved this tractor then and I still love it now.
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Location: Columbia, Tennessee

Re: New noise

Postby Pap » Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:53 pm

Yup :lol:
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Re: New noise

Postby tst » Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:23 pm

take the belts off and run it to see if the noise is gone, if so its the fan or generator

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So far, Paul and Ringo have arrived. John and George were supposed to follow ages ago, but apparently have gone awol. Long story.
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Re: New noise

Postby Crimson Tim » Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:22 pm

Walnuts down the exhaust stack?

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Re: New noise

Postby Glen » Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:04 am

Hi,
The Cub owner's manual shows how to oil the fan hub, if you need the info.
You didn't say what year Cub you have.

If the hub doesn't have an oil screw, it might have a newer replacement fan assembly, some or all of those have sealed bearings, there isn't an oil screw in the hub on those, they have said on here before. :)

Binky Tremain
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Zip Code: 19063
Tractors Owned: 1948 Cub
Location: Middletown, Pa

Re: New noise

Postby Binky Tremain » Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:03 am

It’s a 1948. I have the service and owners manuals coming in Friday.

I’ve checked a number of times and even scraped paint on hub…no screw. I’m new to this, but fan replacement doesn’t seem too bad. Trying to capture it on video.

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Re: New noise

Postby Cubfriend » Tue Aug 31, 2021 6:55 am

Is the nut on the alternator loose allowing the alternator fan to wobble?
Frank

Binky Tremain
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Location: Middletown, Pa

Video

Postby Binky Tremain » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:42 pm

Having trouble attaching video. Have posted it on facebooks Farmal cub repair and maintenance page.

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Re: New noise

Postby tst » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:54 pm

they did make a replacement fan with sealed bearings so you may have one of those if there is no screw in the hub


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