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Re: Cub "Tire Machine"

Postby tst » Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:08 pm

they are the easy ones, the tire is so big it goes on and off almost by hand, leave it on the tractor, break the bead, and just pry it off, tractor holds it for you, I have even wedged an iron on the bead held by the floorboard with vice grips, turn the wheel and it peels right off

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Re: Cub "Tire Machine"

Postby Matt Kirsch » Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:42 am

Aw, I was hoping you'd come up with a Cub-powered tire machine... LOL. Totally misinterpreted the thread title.

I do a lot of tire work myself. Latest was a pair of 14L-16.1 12 ply tractor fronts... Those were fun with spoons, especially getting the stiff old 1980 vintage Safemark tires off the rims, even when I was pulling the tire off the right side of the rim.

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Re: Cub "Tire Machine"

Postby BigBill » Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:23 pm

I purchased a manual tire changer from Hf, with the smaller cub cadet tire changer I made a bracket to hold it. I was wondering if the fcub rim center would work on the tire changer.
I mounted 11,2 x 24 tires on the ground. I was weened on the manual tire changer when I was 14 yo. Even changing tires with irons was no big thing. I can’t do much with my health worse now my son carries the torch.
I'm technically misunderstood at times i guess its been this way my whole life so why should it change now.

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Re: Cub "Tire Machine"

Postby Clemsonfor » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:07 pm

I'm way younger than a lot of you guys but when I needed tubes in my yanmar, which also has 24" tires, just 9.4x24 I just took them to the local tire place that does all mine and pay the like $15 per tire to mess with them. This was like 10 years ago. I'm cheap but iknow when to spend a little cash and do something else and just pick them up or try to save money. Now if it was on a Saturday and I needed it done then and had the stuff to do it, sure I will.

Great thinking on making it easier for yourself.

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Re: Cub "Tire Machine"

Postby Greenthumbfarms » Wed Mar 23, 2022 7:43 pm

Clemsonfor wrote:I'm way younger than a lot of you guys but when I needed tubes in my yanmar, which also has 24" tires, just 9.4x24 I just took them to the local tire place that does all mine and pay the like $15 per tire to mess with them. This was like 10 years ago. I'm cheap but iknow when to spend a little cash and do something else and just pick them up or try to save money. Now if it was on a Saturday and I needed it done then and had the stuff to do it, sure I will.

Great thinking on making it easier for yourself.


It gets expensive having tires mounted after too long, we usually replace 6-18 tires a year on the farm. I replace any of them myself that I can, only leaving the large 18" tractor rears and the front tires on our combine for a tire service to handle.
When I started doing tires myself, I was told I was nuts. But having a young back, I was more concerned with the money and time saved.
I have a feeling I'll hit a point where I'd rather hire it out, but our good independent tire shops have all dried up. Pomps tire is around here (Chain, I believe they are nationwide) and their customer service and work quality are just terrible.
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Re: Cub "Tire Machine"

Postby Clemsonfor » Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:25 pm

If a farm is doing that many tires it may make sense..if you have the time and labor to do it. If your doing that many tires I would think you have a fairly substantial cash flow....while I may be wrong here. Also you probably want to do everything possible to lessen expenses, I also might think it's one of those things if your dinking around with a tire your not doing something else. But if there is none to do it or no one around you may have no choice but to be fooling around with tires. Also if you do that many a year your probably faster than I am at it as well! Haha

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Re: Cub "Tire Machine"

Postby SamsFarm » Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:23 am

Seems those 4-12 Cub fronts are the big bear
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Re: Cub "Tire Machine"

Postby DBIZZELL » Thu Mar 24, 2022 5:39 am

Easy on the back, but make sure barrel is clean before welding on it, many people have been injured cutting or welding on barrels.

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Re: Cub "Tire Machine"

Postby Dusty B » Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:51 am

SamsFarm wrote:Where is the bead breaker attachment? :)

That is what the bucket on the loader is for, or drive over it on the ground before it goes on the barrel!! Don't even waste time with any other tools to loosen the bead!!
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Re: Cub "Tire Machine"

Postby Clemsonfor » Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:25 pm

Dusty B wrote:
SamsFarm wrote:Where is the bead breaker attachment? :)

That is what the bucket on the loader is for, or drive over it on the ground before it goes on the barrel!! Don't even waste time with any other tools to loosen the bead!!

Yea I use a board and a vehicle to break beads.

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Re: Cub "Tire Machine"

Postby 69ranger » Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:30 pm

Looks like a good idea! It would sure get the work up at a more comfortable working height.
I have a couple cub tires to work on, one of these days, so I will try this out.

I break them down with a wedge hammer, if I cant break the bead with my loader bucket. Over all, my back hates me after I mess with tractor tires, but I still do it when I have to.

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Re: Cub "Tire Machine"

Postby Greenthumbfarms » Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:38 pm

Clemsonfor wrote:If a farm is doing that many tires it may make sense..if you have the time and labor to do it. If your doing that many tires I would think you have a fairly substantial cash flow....

The cash on a grain farm is always flowing...usually out of our pocket. We run older machinery for the lower maintainence cost. Naturally one of the first things that has to be replaced when buying used machines is the tires. All of our implements were outside in the weather for many years, we put up a new pole shed to house them last summer. No more tires getting weathered to death. I have 2 trailers and a truck left to replace tires on, then we should be able to go a while until a tire is worn out.
Of course flat tires are always unexpected...
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Re: Cub "Tire Machine"

Postby SamsFarm » Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:31 am

Dusty B wrote:That is what the bucket on the loader is for, or drive over it on the ground before it goes on the barrel!!


Clemsonfor wrote:Yea I use a board and a vehicle to break beads.


I have done both of those tricks, plus used a tooth on a backhoe bucket too.

But find if I squish the tread too much, sometimes the cords break (steel belted automotive tires) and a big knot can form in the tread in a short time after using! :(
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Re: Cub "Tire Machine"

Postby Clemsonfor » Sat Mar 26, 2022 1:47 pm

SamsFarm wrote:
Dusty B wrote:That is what the bucket on the loader is for, or drive over it on the ground before it goes on the barrel!!


Clemsonfor wrote:Yea I use a board and a vehicle to break beads.


I have done both of those tricks, plus used a tooth on a backhoe bucket too.

But find if I squish the tread too much, sometimes the cords break (steel belted automotive tires) and a big knot can form in the tread in a short time after using! :(

Yep always a risk. More easily done on a tire you replace as that isn't a concern.


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