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Distributor with out advance???

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inairam
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Distributor with out advance???

Postby inairam » Thu Nov 05, 2020 3:33 pm

I purchased a used distributor off of eBay. I went to start cleaning it and I noticed there was no advance mechanism. The seller was good about it and sent me a full refund and did not even ask for the unit back.

I like the casting so I took it apart and the shaft is very different from standard. It looks as if this distributor never had an advance.

Any idea what it was for?
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Re: Distributor with out advance???

Postby tst » Thu Nov 05, 2020 5:45 pm

it had one, the pins are there for the weights, I had a couple with no advance but the advance plate had no pins, some one probably tossed them, maybe springs were broke or what ever, what does the bottom of the points plate look like ?, seen many tore up on the bottom where the weight parts exploded

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Tractors Owned: 1948 6v - Dozer
1949 with kub klipper belly mower. mag 6v - Mom
1950 with plow, 54 blade, mott mag 6v - Roxanne
1953 54 blade, c22, wood 42 6v
1957 6v - barn Queen
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower 12 v - Loboy
1974 Horse II 12 v c-2
1975 with woods 42-6 12 v - Horse
1979 long strip 12 v stuck engine
130 with international 1000 loader 6 v
1969 140 with bush hog tow behind mower 12 v
Terramite T-6 4WD Backhoe Perkins diesel
Memberships: Rough and Tumble Engineers Historical Association;Chapter 8 IH Collectors; IH Collectors Worldwide
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Location: Glen Mills PA

Re: Distributor with out advance???

Postby inairam » Thu Nov 05, 2020 6:33 pm

Tim, there was no damage to the points plate. The shaft on the left is one piece. There are no markings on the shaft for the plate for the weights. I think it was never there.

Weren't there some gas start diesel? Could this be a distributor out of something like that would not need an advance?

I can not see why IH would build ones for a limited application and not just use the same distributor to save on inventory.
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Re: Distributor with out advance???

Postby Eugene » Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:31 pm

Mechanical advance.

Cam lobes appear to be very sharp in the photos. Might just be the photo.

What does the body of the distributor look like? IH markings/logo?

And I don't know what is is out of.
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Re: Distributor with out advance???

Postby Jim Becker » Thu Nov 05, 2020 7:58 pm

After the changeover from magnetos to battery ignition, the gas start Diesels had a distributor with a one-piece shaft and no centrifugal advance (some of them).

There should be a code stamped into the mounting flange. It may give a clue as to the original use.

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Tractors Owned: 1948 6v - Dozer
1949 with kub klipper belly mower. mag 6v - Mom
1950 with plow, 54 blade, mott mag 6v - Roxanne
1953 54 blade, c22, wood 42 6v
1957 6v - barn Queen
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower 12 v - Loboy
1974 Horse II 12 v c-2
1975 with woods 42-6 12 v - Horse
1979 long strip 12 v stuck engine
130 with international 1000 loader 6 v
1969 140 with bush hog tow behind mower 12 v
Terramite T-6 4WD Backhoe Perkins diesel
Memberships: Rough and Tumble Engineers Historical Association;Chapter 8 IH Collectors; IH Collectors Worldwide
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Glen Mills PA

Re: Distributor with out advance???

Postby inairam » Fri Nov 06, 2020 11:55 am

part number on casting is 355(?)898r1 No making on the mounting flange.

Some better photos of the rotor end of the shaft. No place of oil whick.
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