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Front leveler mounting position
I take it there are different length front levelers or I mounted it wrong.
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Re: Front leveler mounting position
Hi,
You didn't say if the LoBoy has had a Fast Hitch all the time, or it didn't have one, and you are installing one.
The LoBoy Fast Hitch is mostly different from a Cub Fast Hitch. I'm not sure which parts are causing the problem. The LoBoy pull bar has different bends in it than a Cub pull bar.
Yours has no crank at the top of the depth control rod, that I can see in the pic, the rod is not supposed to be tight up under the fender.
Below is the Cub and LoBoy parts manual. You can look and see if you have the right parts.
The Cub Fast Hitch is in group 9, pages 4 - 9.
The LoBoy Fast Hitch is in group 9, pages 10 - 14.
http://www.farmallcub.info/galleries/ci ... _Rev_3.asp
You didn't say if the LoBoy has had a Fast Hitch all the time, or it didn't have one, and you are installing one.
The LoBoy Fast Hitch is mostly different from a Cub Fast Hitch. I'm not sure which parts are causing the problem. The LoBoy pull bar has different bends in it than a Cub pull bar.
Yours has no crank at the top of the depth control rod, that I can see in the pic, the rod is not supposed to be tight up under the fender.
Below is the Cub and LoBoy parts manual. You can look and see if you have the right parts.
The Cub Fast Hitch is in group 9, pages 4 - 9.
The LoBoy Fast Hitch is in group 9, pages 10 - 14.
http://www.farmallcub.info/galleries/ci ... _Rev_3.asp
Last edited by Glen on Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Front leveler mounting position
Looks like the depth adjusting screw holding bracket needs to be leaned forward a bit. Maybe not in the right holes at the bottom.
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Re: Front leveler mounting position
I'm not going to run out and look at a tractor right now. But I think you need to mount the adjuster assembly near the top of the final drive housing rather than near the bottom. The crank will end up well above the fender.
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Re: Front leveler mounting position
Hi,
Below is a page from the Cub parts manual, you can see the height and position of the crank in the top pic.
http://www.farmallcub.info/manuals/cub_ ... 000-14.jpg
Below are pics of a LoBoy Fast Hitch at TM Tractor. You probably need the spacers for the fender, if you don't have them, shown in the 3 pics at the bottom of the page.
The red part at the rear is not standard from IH, the owner's manual shows.
http://www.tmtractor.com/tm-tractor/gim ... ht_001.htm
Below is a page from the Cub parts manual, showing the fenders. The spacers are numbers 1 and 6 in the pic, it has to have the spacers shown in the descriptions for a LoBoy with a Fast Hitch.
http://www.farmallcub.info/manuals/cub_ ... 013-09.jpg
All the pics are probably easier to see on a computer with a big screen, rather than a small phone.
Below is a page from the Cub parts manual, you can see the height and position of the crank in the top pic.
http://www.farmallcub.info/manuals/cub_ ... 000-14.jpg
Below are pics of a LoBoy Fast Hitch at TM Tractor. You probably need the spacers for the fender, if you don't have them, shown in the 3 pics at the bottom of the page.
The red part at the rear is not standard from IH, the owner's manual shows.
http://www.tmtractor.com/tm-tractor/gim ... ht_001.htm
Below is a page from the Cub parts manual, showing the fenders. The spacers are numbers 1 and 6 in the pic, it has to have the spacers shown in the descriptions for a LoBoy with a Fast Hitch.
http://www.farmallcub.info/manuals/cub_ ... 013-09.jpg
All the pics are probably easier to see on a computer with a big screen, rather than a small phone.
Last edited by Glen on Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Front leveler mounting position
Jim Becker wrote:I'm not going to run out and look at a tractor right now. But I think you need to mount the adjuster assembly near the top of the final drive housing rather than near the bottom. The crank will end up well above the fender.
I totally agree with Jim on this.
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Re: Front leveler mounting position
Well I thought I messed up, the reason I mounted it at the bottom of the final drive is that is where the mounting holes lined up. it didn't look like they would line up up top.
However I will get back at it tomorrow and see what happens.
Thank you
However I will get back at it tomorrow and see what happens.
Thank you
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Re: Front leveler mounting position
Glen wrote:Hi,
Below is a page from the Cub parts manual, you can see the height and position of the crank in the top pic.
http://www.farmallcub.info/manuals/cub_ ... 000-14.jpg
Below are pics of a LoBoy Fast Hitch at TM Tractor. You probably need the spacers for the fender, if you don't have them, shown in the 3 pics at the bottom of the page.
The red part at the rear is not standard from IH, the owner's manual shows.
http://www.tmtractor.com/tm-tractor/gim ... ht_001.htm
Below is a page from the Cub parts manual, showing the fenders. The spacers are numbers 1 and 6 in the pic, it has to have the spacers shown in the descriptions for a LoBoy with a Fast Hitch.
http://www.farmallcub.info/manuals/cub_ ... 013-09.jpg
All the pics are probably easier to see on a computer with a big screen, rather than a small phone.
thank you, this is helpful i can see where the top bolt goes ill see what the bottom lines up with tomorrow.
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Re: Front leveler mounting position
It appears to me that you have a depth control assembly for a standard Cub. This photo from TM Tractor Parts shows the assembly for a Lo-Boy.
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Re: Front leveler mounting position
Yep I believe you're right. So I can leave and notch the fender and extend the shaft or I can cut the bar and re-drill if it's long enough. Either way I can make it work.
Don McCombs wrote:It appears to me that you have a depth control assembly for a standard Cub. This photo from TM Tractor Parts shows the assembly for a Lo-Boy.
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Re: Front leveler mounting position
I have another question. What is the biggest rear plow blade you guys think it can handle. 5,6,or 7ft?
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Re: Front leveler mounting position
Lowboy66 wrote:Yep I believe you're right. So I can leave and notch the fender and extend the shaft or I can cut the bar and re-drill if it's long enough. Either way I can make it work.Don McCombs wrote:It appears to me that you have a depth control assembly for a standard Cub. This photo from TM Tractor Parts shows the assembly for a Lo-Boy.
There are other options. The one I think I would choose is to find and use the correct parts.
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Re: Front leveler mounting position
Hi,
I think you probably need to buy a depth adjusting crank assembly for a LoBoy.
Compare the pic of the assembly you posted, and the pic Don posted, there is a lot of difference in the length, or position of the shaft when mounted on the 2 different tractors. The mountings are different heights, and the shafts are different.
The hitch bail, at the front of the hitch, is already up high, it looks like in your pic, if you raise the crank assembly up more, it will be even higher.
The bail has to go down to low, to use a plow. You can see it's position in the parts manual pic.
I don't think it is fully down in the manual pic. Someone with a LoBoy might know how low it can be set.
http://www.farmallcub.info/manuals/cub_ ... 000-14.jpg
The IH rear blade for a LoBoy was 5 feet wide, the LoBoy brochure says.
Below is the brochure, the pics are dark on my computer.
http://www.farmallcub.info/galleries/ci ... ochure.asp
I think you probably need to buy a depth adjusting crank assembly for a LoBoy.
Compare the pic of the assembly you posted, and the pic Don posted, there is a lot of difference in the length, or position of the shaft when mounted on the 2 different tractors. The mountings are different heights, and the shafts are different.
The hitch bail, at the front of the hitch, is already up high, it looks like in your pic, if you raise the crank assembly up more, it will be even higher.
The bail has to go down to low, to use a plow. You can see it's position in the parts manual pic.
I don't think it is fully down in the manual pic. Someone with a LoBoy might know how low it can be set.
http://www.farmallcub.info/manuals/cub_ ... 000-14.jpg
The IH rear blade for a LoBoy was 5 feet wide, the LoBoy brochure says.
Below is the brochure, the pics are dark on my computer.
http://www.farmallcub.info/galleries/ci ... ochure.asp
Last edited by Glen on Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Front leveler mounting position
Lowboy66 wrote:Yep I believe you're right. So I can leave and notch the fender and extend the shaft or I can cut the bar and re-drill if it's long enough. Either way I can make it work.
I don't believe you're going to be able to make that work. Look at the side by side comparison. There are significant differences including the angle of the mounting bar and the length of the adjustor. I think Don's got the right idea, get the correct parts.
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Re: Front leveler mounting position
Thank you.
Glen wrote:Hi,
I think you probably need to buy a depth adjusting crank assembly for a LoBoy.
Compare the pic of the assembly you posted, and the pic Don posted, there is a lot of difference in the length, or position of the shaft when mounted on the 2 different tractors. The mountings are different heights, and the shafts are different.
The hitch bail, at the front of the hitch, is already up high, it looks like in your pic, if you raise the crank assembly up more, it will be even higher.
The bail has to go down to low, to use a plow. You can see it's position in the parts manual pic.
I don't think it is fully down in the manual pic. Someone with a LoBoy might know how low it can be set.
http://www.farmallcub.info/manuals/cub_ ... 000-14.jpg
The IH rear blade for a LoBoy was 5 feet wide, the LoBoy brochure says.
Below is the brochure, the pics are dark on my computer.
http://www.farmallcub.info/galleries/ci ... ochure.asp
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