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vertical exhaust pipe fumes

Postby marshall » Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:28 pm

I'm finding that an hour or two on the tractor with heavy exhaust fumes in face is really foul. Sometimes my eyes burn and I get a headache from it and I always come in stinking and need to shower and change clothes. Not looking for a catalytic converter or major modifications but has anyone got an idea about improving what comes out of the vertical stack on a 50 cub? It seems worse since I replaced plugs, points and coil (which makes it run WAY better than it used to).

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Re: vertical exhaust pipe fumes

Postby Dale Finch » Sat Aug 03, 2019 6:47 pm

Install an underslung exhaust!
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Re: vertical exhaust pipe fumes

Postby radioguy41 » Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:45 pm

Does it have a rain flap? Is it turned to the left rather than front or back?
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Re: vertical exhaust pipe fumes

Postby Scrivet » Sun Aug 04, 2019 8:53 am

First question is what do you have now? Just a short pipe? Pipe and muffler?

If whatever combination you have is not exiting over your head then you're driving right into it as you move forward.

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Re: vertical exhaust pipe fumes

Postby jsfarmall » Mon Aug 05, 2019 12:53 pm

Your carburetor could be a little rich. More fuel equals more exhaust. Not always but does help some. Taller muffler or taller pipe under the muffler. Can put an elbow on the end.
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Re: vertical exhaust pipe fumes

Postby KETCHAM » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:23 pm

Two things to do....Taller pipe or run it under the tractor....Or quit breathing!!!!
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Re: vertical exhaust pipe fumes

Postby john2189 » Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:38 pm

KETCHAM wrote:Two things to do....Taller pipe or run it under the tractor....Or quit breathing!!!!
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That’s three things :D
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Re: vertical exhaust pipe fumes

Postby KETCHAM » Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:13 pm

Third thing is not an good at all
47 CUB[Krusty] 49 CUB[Ollie] 50 H-- PLOWS DISCS MOWERS AND lots more stuff!!Life is to short -Have fun now cause ya ain't gonna be here long!!!!

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Re: vertical exhaust pipe fumes

Postby Don McCombs » Mon Aug 05, 2019 3:25 pm

What plugs are you running and what is the gap set to?
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Re: vertical exhaust pipe fumes

Postby Crimson Tim » Mon Aug 05, 2019 6:53 pm

Thinking outside the box: propane or CNG conversion?

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Re: vertical exhaust pipe fumes

Postby marshall » Tue Aug 06, 2019 4:08 pm

Hmmm. I didn't have a gapper when I installed the plugs and gapped them to visually match the old ones. I used Autolite 3116. You think that could account for more smoke? Manual says 0.023-0.027. Is that right for these? Are you talking about the idle adjustment on the carb or some other? The pipe does go into a muffler and then back to pipe with a hinged cover over the top of the stack. The whole exhaust pipe unit is a loose where it goes into the engine and thus it can rotate to any position especially while vibrating as I drive around around mowing.

What's a little odd is when it needs a surge of power say if I'm driving up hill or hit thick grass and I give it a little more gas, it responds with a extra puff of smoke out the exhaust that really smells foul. Like something other than gas. Oil? I'll have to see what color it looks to be.

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Re: vertical exhaust pipe fumes

Postby marshall » Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:10 pm

After some more investigation I see why the pipe is loose. Both pipe and exhaust manifold where it screws in are stripped. See photos attached.
Not sure what I'm gonna do about this. Replacing the manifold is expensive. I'd like to make this a cheap fix. I wonder if a new pipe might tap into the manifold with some good twisting. I also found the the muffler has a clamp that doesn't firm tighten it down onto the exhaust pipe. So that spins around too. As you can see I also need a new cover for the air intake. That got hooked up in some other trees and fell off into deep grass.
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Re: vertical exhaust pipe fumes

Postby Don McCombs » Tue Aug 06, 2019 5:15 pm

You can clean up the threads in the manifold with a 1”NPT tap.
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Re: vertical exhaust pipe fumes

Postby Scrivet » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:10 pm

Regular black iron pipe, not galvanized. If you can't find a 1" tap and you have a pipe with threads at both ends you can cut one end off about four inches above the threads. Make it into a tap by cutting a couple slits across the threads and use a pipe wrench to screw it into the manifold working it back and forth with your favorite snake oil.

Muffler clamp may need a new bolt. Or you can make a shim out of an aluminum can to increase the diameter of the pipe.

As for the air cleaner, time to trim some limbs if they're knocking that off, especially if you're going to be working under them with a taller exhaust, or you won't have a taller exhaust long.

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Re: vertical exhaust pipe fumes

Postby Dale Finch » Tue Aug 06, 2019 9:34 pm

Trust me, and this is from experience...you will NOT find that lost air cleaner cap until you purchase a new one!!! :lol:
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