Tire chains on asphalt driveway

cdahl383

cdahl383

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Just a few questions about tire chains:

1.) Will tire chains mark up an asphalt driveway?
2.) How much do tire chains really help?
3.) What's the typical price range for a set of tire chains for a Cub (assuming 9.5-24 rear tires)?
4.) Are rubber tire chains any good?

My Cub has done pretty good so far this year with plowing, only minimal slippage on some ice in the driveway. I was thinking about picking up a set of tire chains at some point this year in preparation for next winter, but was concerned about them marking up the driveway. We just got our driveway paved a couple years ago so I really don't want to mess it up if I can avoid it.
 

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If you get a couple of storms a year then I wouldn't worry about it but if you get a bunch then you will probably scar it. When you get chains and if you get a bunch of storms there are a bunch of styles to choose from. The biggest PITA I see on my chains on 3 tractors is that the crossovers are spaced too wide apart and the crossovers fall in between the treads.
 
I run tire chains on turf tires for plowing and think they make a the difference in snow and mud. the is where I have purchased several sets of chains. https://www.tractortirechains.com

the damage I am concerned with is from the cutting edge. I have a plastic cutting edge for snow sandwiched between the blade and the steel cutting edge and no shoes. I have an older 600 foot drive and have not done any damage to it from the chains or blade
 
Sounds like maybe I should just hold off then and see how often I even use the tractor for plowing. Over the last few years we've lived here we really haven't gotten a ton of snow. Maybe 3-4 decent snowfalls, but sometimes it would only be a few inches and it would melt within in a day or two anyway.

I should look into putting something on the edge of my blade I guess. It's just the blade with the steel edge and then some hooks on the back of the blade, maybe those are what you're referring to as shoes.
 
cdahl383":1q11f62e said:
Just a few questions about tire chains:

1.) Will tire chains mark up an asphalt driveway?
2.) How much do tire chains really help?
3.) What's the typical price range for a set of tire chains for a Cub (assuming 9.5-24 rear tires)?
4.) Are rubber tire chains any good?

My Cub has done pretty good so far this year with plowing, only minimal slippage on some ice in the driveway. I was thinking about picking up a set of tire chains at some point this year in preparation for next winter, but was concerned about them marking up the driveway. We just got our driveway paved a couple years ago so I really don't want to mess it up if I can avoid it.
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Double up your rear weights and you will see a massive difference. I put a second pair of rear weights (and one set of fronts) on if I plan to do snow or grader work and get a bigger traction boost than one would expect from the added 300 pounds.

Edit: when I lived in town I had a concrete driveway so ai never used chains. Now that I'm on gravel at the farmhouse I do. Never had trouble in town with the double weights and no chains, but it drifts worse out here and the extra bite sure helps.
 
I agree with the added weight versus chains, chains will eventually scare the driveway surface concrete or asphalt. That's why most States have eliminated studded tires. A little smaller bite on each pass also helps.
 
Yes, chains will mark up your driveway mainly from wheel slippage. Doubling up the wheel weights will help somewhat but only a very small fraction of the increase in traction that chains will give you. I run double weights as well as some suitcase weights on a step bracket I fabricated for under the right side of the Cub which due to the offset of the Cub is the light side of the tractor. I've also doubled the amount of chain cross links on my tire chains which again increased traction and reduces wheel slippage. I have two driveways, one gravel and one concrete.

I live on a pretty busy road where everyone seems to travel at 60 mph regardless of the weather conditions. I push a good deal of snow across the road and if I get hung up as I push the snow over the small bank that exists there, my tractor is half out in the road. I've been there and done that and it's scary with all the traffic and sometime low visibility due to snowy conditions. Adding additional cross links to my chains was the biggest improvement I've done to improve traction. It also reduces the amount of slippage I get while plowing which means less marking up the concrete driveway.

I also plow out the widow that lives next to me. She has an asphalt driveway. I'm very careful to keep any wheel slippage to an absolute minimum to keep from marking up her driveway but I'm sure I've left a few marks in it. She's never complained and she appreciates that I help her out by keeping her drive cleared.

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Cool, maybe I’ll look into the extra wheel weights for next year. I really don’t want to mess up my driveway, it looks mint now since it was repaved.

I’ve been told my rear weights are not Cub weights though. Apparently they are A weights? Can you guys confirm this? If I look for another set of weights I want to make sure they’ll actually fit. Maybe you can stack Cub weights over A weights anyway?
 

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Carl, it is hard to tell in the pic but they somewhat look like A weights. A Cub weight has a 6" diameter center hole. I do not believe you nan double up a cub and an A weight.
 
To me they don’t look like either the Cub weights or the A/Super A weights that I am familiar with. The Cub weights, that I have seen and own, don’t have the slots at the bolt holes. The A /Super A weights don’t have a “sharp edge” at the hub hole. They have a flat edge. See photos.

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Your’s may be for some other tractor brand that uses the same or similar rim.
 
Wow I had no idea they could be weights off of a completely different tractor. I thought only Farmall ones would fit. That's interesting. I agree, it definitely looks like mine are similar to the B.F. Avery tractor photo above. They have the same slots where the bolts go through to the rim where the Cub and A weights do not have slots. I always learn something new on here! :)
 
If you can find a part number on the weights to compare it to a BF AVERY or MM V the part number is either A20 or V40 depending on the tractor SN. The part number changed at SN 4V535 for the BF AVERY V weights.

EDIT: The parts list for BF AVERY A shows rear wheel weight part number as CT33A. A previous post has a picture. Since the MM BF replaced the AVERY R, it's very likely that the rear weights were the same. The MM BF and BG rear weights are 150 lb each. This pic is from the MM BG Operation and Maintenance Manual.
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EDIT 2: More research shows my MM BG with rear weights. They are not the same as the BF AVERY R and are not the same as the pic that I posted above from the BG manual. I have no knowledge if the rear weights shown are MM OEM or some other mfg. It will require further research. Sorry to mislead anyone. BG08.JPG
 
Well, B.F. Avery weights, I would imagine, are much more scarce than Cub weights. I usually see Cub rear weights selling between $75 & $125. You might want to check around and see what your weights might be worth. You might be surprised. Maybe you can sell them for enough money to buy 2 pair of Cub weights... :wink:
 
ricky racer":2dsb92w8 said:
Well, B.F. Avery weights, I would imagine, are much more scarce than Cub weights. I usually see Cub rear weights selling between $75 & $125.......
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I have 2 BF AVERY V's (1947 and 1949) and a 1953 MM BG offset (successor to the V, about the size of a Super A) and I've never seen a set of weights for a "V". My BG does have rear weights, unknown mfg. They do not match the pic shown in the MM BG manual. (I corrected the post above about it). I would be happy to trade you my cub weights front and rear for your weights. :lol: Stan
EDITED TO CORRECT AND AGREE WITH THE POST ABOVE. Sorry for any misleading info. :oops: Stan
 
So you guys think my rear weights are from a BF Avery tractor? Where would the part numbers be located on the weights? Maybe I can find the part number without taking them off.

I’d rather have Cub weights to match the tractor, but these seem to be fine too. If they’re around 150lbs each that’s about the same as the Cub weights correct?
 
cdahl383":33t6tlmg said:
So you guys think my rear weights are from a BF Avery tractor? Where would the part numbers be located on the weights? Maybe I can find the part number without taking them off.........
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Here's a post from 2012 that I linked to in another post on the BF AVERY rear wheel weights. Click on the link below to see the location and part number. :hattip: Stan
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