She said it was a Cub..... My saga begins.

Thanks for all the replies sofar. Here is the plan for next Sat as of right now:

1) Take a picture of the other one for you guys
2) Pull the Super out of it's current dwelling
3) Chain up or remove the plow. This will depend on where it will be at that time. I don't want to just leave it in her yard.
4) Pull it around to someplace my helpless 2wd truck can get to it.
5) Attach pulley to front of trailer, attach one end of cable to tractor, then through pulley, back under tractor to tug vehicle.
6) SLOWLY and Easily pull it up on the trailer.
7) Figure out what of the other bits I can fit on the trailer and in the truck and pile them on accordingly.
8) Post picture from #1
9) Try to make more accurate assesment of what I have gotten myself into and devise a game plan. First step will be some Marvel Mystery oil, the on to the Kroil if that doesn't work. If both of those fail, I will just buy a complete kit and go to town.

As for the implements, I will keep them for the time being, although, I dont see me raising a garden, but you never know. Most of our 14 acres is far from pasture/field material. Lots of rocks and whatnot, as well as hillsides that I wouldnt go across on my ATV, let alone a tractor. But, I will hang on to them just in case.

A 3 point will depend alot on how much effort it takes to get it running. If it frees up easily, and I am able to get it going, then I will go down the 3 point road quickly as I have access to alot of 3 point stuff. If not, I will probably just pick up an N or something to push snow with and other tasks like augering the poles in for a barn.

Since the wife views this as a bit of an heirloom, I have her full support an permisson to do whatever is needed to get it going and looking good. It's not intended to be a smart investment or a wise use of money. Not to say I am going to go hog wild, but if it takes a re-sleeve, thats what it takes. Replacing gaskets and such is just time and very little money. I have decided that I am going to build me an electrolosys tank and give that a go. Beyond that, I just need to get a better idea of where I stand on everything.

And, yesterday, next to my favorite greasy spoon, I spy a Cub sitting there very lonely, may have to see what the story with that little guy is.

But... For tonight, I am going to go pout about the Mountaineers poor showing today against USF.
 
Pull the spark plugs and put some "Kroil" in each cylinder a few drops, she could be just stuck from sitting and it may turn over in a few days and be ok. Once it free's up add some motor oil in the cylinder just a few drops will do to pre lube her. I passed on one here for $300 with a stuck motor.
 
Nice find!! I'd like to get a nice project tractor like that one day to tear apart and rebuild. Implements are always great to come across. As you get into these tractors, you'll find how nice it is to have and relatively easy to restore them.I'm with everyone else, intrigued by your story and wondering what your other tractor is!!
 
Looks good. I hope to get one of those one day also. Wife's gonna kill me... :? Good luck with it.
Bob
 
This should maybe be under a complete new topic / header, but with the talk about new sleeves, it prompts me to ask what can be done with the Cub engine (unsleeved) when you're at the max oversize pistons already, .030" over (I think) in case, God forbid, that that engine has to be redone. Are sleeves available for the Cub if needed. My crank is still ok, has at least one and (I think) two grinds left. J Howard
 
Joe Howard":1mmq4aku said:
This should maybe be under a complete new topic / header, but with the talk about new sleeves, it prompts me to ask what can be done with the Cub engine (unsleeved) when you're at the max oversize pistons already, .030" over (I think) in case, God forbid, that that engine has to be redone. Are sleeves available for the Cub if needed. My crank is still ok, has at least one and (I think) two grinds left. J Howard

Cheap way out would be to purchase a running engine from one of the advertisers on this board. Or better yet purchase a parts tractor.

http://www.valubilt.com has a .040 and a .060 over rebore kit for $172.79 (fall 06 catalog).

Try the advertisers on this board. They may have an overbore kit.

Eugene
 
I think every one of us dreams of a deal like this. It's one of those once-in-a-lifetime things unless your name is BigDog...

My belated advice to this thread is, don't make things overly complicated.

For example, pulling the tractor up on the trailer: Unless you've already got a pulley and cable, you're going to spend a LOT of money on these items. The idea of jacknifing the trailer and pulling it straight on is much easier and only requires a simple tow strap or rope.

It's going to take 3-4 of your strongest friends, and a case of beer, to push the tractor up on the trailer... My H's clutch is out and I thought if we got it uphill of the shed and let it roll back, it would hop up in there easy as pie! NOT! Even with the tires pumped up they don't roll that good, and when it hit the low spot in front of the shed door, that's as far as she went. A Super A is lighter, yes, but you've got quite a hill to climb pushing it up on the trailer.

Definitely air up the tires to make it roll easier, preferably from a distance using a locking air chuck and the control valve on your air compressor. Who knows how rotten those tires are...

Get the tractor outside and unbolt the two plow bottoms. It'll make it so much easier to deal with. If the tractor would fit on the trailer with the plow bottoms, you should be able to set the loose bottoms on the trailer and strap them down under the tractor right? No need to worry about leaving them beind because you won't.
 
Super A with 2-way plow is nigh onto 2700 lbs, I do believe.........

Won't give you too much trouble until you hit the ramp of the trailer.......

A come-along will do it, but it'll take you awhile....

two guys can't roll a cub up a ramp (usually) by the back tires, let alone a Super-A........
 
Well, since we didn't get as much rain as we were forcast, we are going to go fetch it in the morning. And, YES, I will get pictures of the other one, but wont be picking it up.

Talked to the wifes uncle last night, who operates heavy equipment to see if he had any suggestions or tricks. He asked how wide it was and said he would call me back this evening. No idea what is up his sleeve, but I suspect it involves a trailer with a winch or similar.

The jack knifing idea is probably the best one yet. I do already have about 30 feet of cable and a pulley, so if need be, there is still that option.

Luckly, all I HAVE to pick up this go round is the tractor, and can come back later for the rest of the bits.

Either way, between a few trucks and a bunch of chains, straps and cables, we will figure something out. Worst comes to worse, I can borrow a good size rollback with a winch and all that. Just seems like overkill to start with.

There will be lots of pictures sometime Saturday. Lookout Keystone cops!
 
Ok, we extracted it today. Wasnt too much trouble overall. Took pulling from a couple of different angles with the wifes Pathfinder to get it out if it's resting spot. Putting air in the tires went a long way towards making it roll well.

Once we got it rolling it was smooth rolling. Brakes still function, so that was good.

Backed the trailer up to a hill, drove it down the hill 75% of the way on to the trailer, little more pulling with the Pathfinder to get the rest of the way.

Strapped/chained her down and pulled it home without event.

As promised, I took some pictures of the other carcass. By the serial it is a 1945 A, but it has been completely stripped, and isnt really worth much.
http://www.wvpolekat.com/Farmall/athome/IMGP0679.JPG
http://www.wvpolekat.com/Farmall/athome/IMGP0678.JPG

As for the one we drug home, you can browse the pictures:
http://www.wvpolekat.com/Farmall/athome/

And no comments about my lack of butt and ability to keep my pants up!
 
Congratulations! We're glad it went well.

It looks like you used the suggested loading method. :D

Although the B doesn't look like much it may be valuable to you since the two tractors share basically the same drive line. It could be well worth recovering. The open stack doesn't bode well for the engine but you never know.

If the Super A is an early one the engines may even be the same? I forget when the engines changed. :( Maybe earlier?
 
wvpolekat, congrats on a nice job and a great find, the other tractor looks like a Farmall B it may be another great project as well
 
The other tractor looks like an A with the front end off of a B or BN. It has quite a few parts that may be useful on the Super A. Unfortunarely, in spite of the outward appearance, quite a few parts will NOT be the same.
 
I seriously doubt I will go through the trouble to retrieve the other one, unless she just wants it gone. It has been stripped of just about everything that unbolts, and really doesn't hold much interest for me as a ressurection project, regardless of it's rarity. Just more project than I can take on in the forseeable future.

I think that Jim nailed the ID with it being an A with a B or BN front end. Seems the Bs have the engine in center and narrow front end. Where the A had cultivision with wide front end. His explaination makes perfect sense, although around these parts narrow front end is rare. Possible someone had a need for one. General feeling is that they are death traps on the hills here.

But, if anyone may be interested in it, PM me and we can see what we can work out.
 
Well i can see a few parts,magneto,steering wheel,seat springs,platform, valve cover,oil pan, head is probably salvageable. probably a few more there. Remember all those little parts add up if you have to buy them.Not to mention the axles,tranny,gas tank(which will not fit your super a)due to the mounting brackets are not made for the hydraulic block.

someone slapped a front end on it like Jim said off a B or BN. I gather all the junk up i can. you never know ,might build one from scratch one of these days.
 
Most of the internal transmission and final drive parts of the mogrel A (if it is a later one) are interchangeable with the Super A, most of the major housings are not. I notice it has the WWII cast iron shift knob.
 
wvpolekat: Very soon after I bought my first Cub, I purchased a belly mower for it. While picking up the mower, the seller told me that there was a pile of "junk" over by the fence which came with his Cub, his wife was pressuring him to get rid of it and I was welcome to take what I wanted. Anything I left would be hauled off by the trash collector. I picked out a few things but, not being familiar with tractors, I left most of it as I didn't know what it was. As I learned more about Cubs and their implements, I found that I had taken a few parts of what was probably a complete fast-hitch. I checked back with the seller but the remainder was long gone with the trash man. I believe that I gave $100.00 for the mower but left several times that amount of useful items which were discarded. When I buy something now, I take everything which the seller volunteers to give me. If I can't use it I can loan it to someone who wants it, sell it, trade for something I want or simply give it to someone who needs it. I have done each of these at one time or another. If you take the second tractor, you may be able to make several people happy because you can supply something which they need. And if you sell the parts, you may find that the money you get pays you very well for the time spent in moving it. Dan
 
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