Red light bulb for 140 tail light.

[Board shortener Tom]

Hi all!

I've been tidying up the lighting system on my 140 and found the switch is looking pretty poorly on the backside. I will be replacing it before it becomes a problem. On the rear light of the tractor I found a single pole socket for a red tail light. The light bulb to put white light on equipment mounted to the rear has an oval spot on it's backside so the tail light can shine through it. For kicks I tried an 1156 bulb in the socket but the glass of the bulb interfered with it so it would not go into the socket all the way. I'm assuming the correct bulb would be red and have a different shape to the glass. Would any of you know if this mystery bulb is available and from where? I've poked around the web but not found anything.

Thanks for all the help you folks give me!

Tom

 

[Gary Dotson]

I used a red led bulb in mine, of course mine is 12v.

 

[Board shortener Tom]

I used a red led bulb in mine, of course mine is 12v.

Thanks Gary.

Mine is also 12v. Where did you get your bulb from?

 

[Dale Finch]

I believe the backside of the original white sealed beam light was painted with a red paint (see the flaking remnants), through which a WHITE bulb shined, producing a red light.

 

[indy61]

I think that is a Hobbs style rear combo light. The small bulb should be a #1003.

https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/LMP1003N

 

[Dale Finch]

This is the 12v sealed beam light (4409X) I referred to:

4409X Sealed Beam Combination Rear Light Bulb 12V | eBay

Fits Cockshutt Models: MODELS with SEALED BEAM COMBO TAIL LIGHT. With our dynamic pricing model, our prices are always competitive. You're already purchasing the item.

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There are many sources, and the lowest price I saw was $20 in a very quick search. Without the red paint, the small bulb you put into your light (as is) would shine white.

 

[Jim Becker]

As already stated, the sealed beam unit originally had a red coating covering part of the back side, so the separate white bulb would show through as red. I have run into several of these with the coating flaked off as it has on Tom's unit. I tried, with no luck, to find something to recoat them. Later on, I got some units from eBay. They had been recoated, so I asked the seller what he used. The answer was paint used in the stained-glass hobby (translucent). So, that seems to be the answer. Apply some (no thicker than needed) stained-glass paint then use a white bulb.

The proper bulbs are 209 for 6-volt and 1003 for 12-volt. Note that these numbers are only for the round style rear lights used from 1958 on. The one that sets in the reflector of the non-sealed lamp is 51 for 6-volt or 53 for 12-volt and the one for the bullet light is 63 for 6-volt or 67 for 12-volt. The tail light (with no white work light) uses 63 for 6-volt or 67 for 12-volt.

Some of these combinations of style/bulb were not used on the Cub or A/140. They are used in each style lamp regardless of the model tractor it was mounted on.

 

[Board shortener Tom]

As already stated, the sealed beam unit originally had a red coating covering part of the back side, so the separate white bulb would show through as red. I have run into several of these with the coating flaked off as it has on Tom's unit. I tried, with no luck, to find something to recoat them. Later on, I got some units from eBay. They had been recoated, so I asked the seller what he used. The answer was paint used in the stained-glass hobby (translucent). So, that seems to be the answer. Apply some (no thicker than needed) stained-glass paint then use a white bulb.

The proper bulbs are 209 for 6-volt and 1003 for 12-volt. Note that these numbers are only for the round style rear lights used from 1958 on. The one that sets in the reflector of the non-sealed lamp is 51 for 6-volt or 53 for 12-volt and the one for the bullet light is 63 for 6-volt or 67 for 12-volt. The tail light (with no white work light) uses 63 for 6-volt or 67 for 12-volt.

Some of these combinations of style/bulb were not used on the Cub or A/140. They are used in each style lamp regardless of the model tractor it was mounted on.

Thanks guys!

I found a red led bulb at Advance Auto. They come in pairs and cost around $30 for the pair. A bit pricey, but they have a lifetime warranty. I removed the socket from the large bulb, installed the red bulb and re-attached the socket. Everything fits well and it's quite bright in "red" mode.

As far as the red paint on the back of the original rear light goes, that make sense to me. In my younger days a rattle can of red paint may have been used as a tail light repair more than once.