New to me Cub Loboy 154

Cliff

Cliff

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I am the proud owner of a IH Cub Lowboy 154. I have yet to get it home but I would like to get a head start on trouble shooting and repairs. I was toled that the tractor would no longer travel in forward direction. However it will travel in reverse. I don't know much about the gear boxes on these tractors so I am unsure what to think. Do these transmissions have a reverse gear that could still function when the forward gears malfunction? If any one has any ideas that could point me in the right direction that would he great. I know I will need some parts for this tractor so if any one out there has any parts for sale I would be interested.
I am also looking for the attachments for my tractor. It come with the mower deck so I am covered there.
1. Blade
2. Snow thrower.
3. Rototiller.
4. Plow
5. Disk
6. Drag
If I for got any of the available attachments that where made for these tractors please let me know I would be interested in learning about them. I am new to the Cub Loby 154 models so I am a novice when it comes to these and related models. So please bear with me. I am sure I may ask some stupid questions.
Thanks in advance.
 
Welcome to the forum. After you have completed the requirements of time and #of posts you can access and download a lot of information about parts/repairs/operators/owners manuals at the Resources link at the top of this page. As a minimum you will greatly benefit from the Owners/Operators manual. If you want to send me an email address via Direct Message I can email you a pdf file copy. Bear in mind that these were made for large acreage mower tractors and some attachments in your list may be extremely difficult to find which translates to very expensive. JMHO Stan
 
staninlowerAL said:
Welcome to the forum. After you have completed the requirements of time and #of posts you can access and download a lot of information about parts/repairs/operators/owners manuals at the Resources link at the top of this page. As a minimum you will greatly benefit from the Owners/Operators manual. If you want to send me an email address via Direct Message I can email you a pdf file copy. Bear in mind that these were made for large acreage mower tractors and some attachments in your list may be extremely difficult to find which translates to very expensive. JMHO Stan
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Thank you, glad to he here. I hope that my new addition to my collection dosn't need a lot of repairs. Over the winter I hope to be able to get her running and in good working condition. I would like to be able to use it in the spring to plow and till my garden. If everything works out I would also like to use it to plant my sweet corn and maybe the popcorn feild.
At the very least I would like to be able to do the garden plowing.
What size of plow works best with these tractors?
Thanks.
Cliff
 
staninlowerAL said:
There's still a couple of cubfests in your general area later this year. You would probably learn a lot if you could attend.
https://farmallcub.com/community/forums/cubfest-and-tractor-show-announcements-discussio.8/ JMHO, Stan
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I regularly go to the Sycamore Steam Show, Rock River Thresheree, and HCOP. I grew up with a cub lo boy, but it's a little different setup with the fast hitch. I also have a half dozen or so other Farmalls I've gone through the ropes with getting into good shape.

My comments were directed to the OP of this thread :D
 
Cliff said:
Thank you, glad to he here. I hope that my new addition to my collection dosn't need a lot of repairs. Over the winter I hope to be able to get her running and in good working condition. I would like to be able to use it in the spring to plow and till my garden. If everything works out I would also like to use it to plant my sweet corn and maybe the popcorn feild.
At the very least I would like to be able to do the garden plowing.
What size of plow works best with these tractors?
Thanks.
Cliff
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JMHO, unless your 154 has the 3 pt hitch option you are probably not going to be able to plow with it. There's several different reasons but most of your questions can be answered by searching the User/Operator's Manuals. Stan
 
staninlowerAL said:
JMHO, unless your 154 has the 3 pt hitch option you are probably not going to be able to plow with it. There's several different reasons but most of your questions can be answered by searching the User/Operator's Manuals. Stan
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I plan on finding a 3pt for my 154. I am not 100% sure but this tractor was ether set up at the factory for a 3pt hitch and it wasn't installed or it had a 3pt and it was removed befor I got it. I will be able to better tell once I get it home and start going over it. The casting on the right side that is bolted between the transmission and the final drive is the one that is used on the 3pt equipped units. So that would suggest that my assumption that mentioned earlier could be correct. We will see. Thanks for the thoughts and contribution to the thread.
Cliff.
P.S. Any one have any thoughts about the question I asked in the first post I made in this thread. The one about the tractor no longer moving forward but still moves in reverse.
Thanks.
Cliff
 
As Don said, problems with the forks can cause problems. In fact, they are the most common source of transmission failures. However, losing all forward gears with reverse still working seems an unlikely failure (forks or otherwise). You probably won't be able to add details until you haul it home and do some more checking it out. Does the shift lever move into all 4 positions? Does it feel like it is doing something (like snapping into each gear) when you move it or does it just move freely? Does it make noise, either in neutral or when you attempt to use one of the forward gears? etc. etc.
 
staninlowerAL said:
JMHO, unless your 154 has the 3 pt hitch option you are probably not going to be able to plow with it. There's several different reasons but most of your questions can be answered by searching the User/Operator's Manuals. Stan
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Here's the 3 pt view from the rear of the tractor from the Operators Manual. Click on the pictures to enlarge.
 

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Farmall450 said:
I regularly go to the Sycamore Steam Show, Rock River Thresheree, and HCOP. I grew up with a cub lo boy, but it's a little different setup with the fast hitch. I also have a half dozen or so other Farmalls I've gone through the ropes with getting into good shape.

My comments were directed to the OP of this thread :D
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And mine also, sorry for any confusion. Stan
 
the number series were NOT made for heavy work and you wont find factory made attachments for them! got a 154 complete transmission and rear end here also complete factory 3-pt. hitch that are for sale ,-- also the good motor, tires rims, front end, steering box. etc. I sold the blade off it a couple years ago.
 
SONNY said:
..............the number series were NOT made for heavy work.............
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That's the basis for my previous comment about the 154, It's a 10hp large scale use lawnmower. By the time the 184 came on the market there were some improvements but not to do heavy work. JMHO Stan
 
Jim Becker said:
As Don said, problems with the forks can cause problems. In fact, they are the most common source of transmission failures. However, losing all forward gears with reverse still working seems an unlikely failure (forks or otherwise). You probably won't be able to add details until you haul it home and do some more checking it out. Does the shift lever move into all 4 positions? Does it feel like it is doing something (like snapping into each gear) when you move it or does it just move freely? Does it make noise, either in neutral or when you attempt to use one of the forward gears? etc. etc.
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Thank you for the feed back it is most appreciated.
Cliff.
 
SONNY said:
the number series were NOT made for heavy work and you wont find factory made attachments for them! got a 154 complete transmission and rear end here also complete factory 3-pt. hitch that are for sale ,-- also the good motor, tires rims, front end, steering box. etc. I sold the blade off it a couple years ago.
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Thank you.
The parts you mentioned?
The 3pt I maybe interested in it. That is if my tractor dosn't turn into a money pit and I have to spend all my money on fixing it first. Lol.
I may be in the market for the cheeper transmission section and related parts to install it. Would you happen to have the creeper? The other attachments I am looking for such as pull behind non powered I have noticed is common enough to finde around my local area. The thing I would like the most is the tiller that was made for this line of tractors. After everything is working that will be my quest, finde a tiller. Any advice about what was and is available would be great. Thanks everyone.
Cliff.
 
Cliff said:
.............. that will be my quest, finde a tiller. Any advice about what was and is available would be great. Thanks everyone.
Cliff.
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I've been reading/participating on the forum almost 15 years and don't recall any posts about Number Series attachments/implements except mowers (IH and aftermarket) but that's not to imply that none were made. There's been some tiller related posts on the farmall cub forum, you might find something by using the Search feature at the top right side of this page, A couple of things to be aware of are: (1) pto rotation speed and direction of rotation (FCub and LoBoy cubs pto run at engine rpm and in the opposite direction of a std pto and (2) ground speed vs the rotation rpm of the tiller. Most posts that I have seen say (and my experience is) that a tiller needs a slow ground speed to operate well, thus need for a creeper attachment for the tractor. So that said you might need a pto reverser gearbox and a creeper attachment. Just thinkin'........... JMHO Stan
EDIT: tractordata.com lists IH attachments as front blade and mowers for the 3 numbered series and a snowblower for the 184 only, nothing listed as aftermarket made attachments.
 
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staninlowerAL said:
I've been reading/participating on the forum almost 15 years and don't recall any posts about Number Series attachments/implements except mowers (IH and aftermarket) but that's not to imply that none were made. There's been some tiller related posts on the farmall cub forum, you might find something by using the Search feature at the top right side of this page, A couple of things to be aware of are: (1) pto rotation speed and direction of rotation (FCub and LoBoy cubs pto run at engine rpm and in the opposite direction of a std pto and (2) ground speed vs the rotation rpm of the tiller. Most posts that I have seen say (and my experience is) that a tiller needs a slow ground speed to operate well, thus need for a creeper attachment for the tractor. So that said you might need a pto reverser gearbox and a creeper attachment. Just thinkin'........... JMHO Stan
EDIT: tractordata.com lists IH attachments as front blade and mowers for the 3 numbered series and a snowblower for the 184 only, nothing listed as aftermarket made attachments.
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Thank you for your thoughts and information. I found out about the reverse rotation early on in my reading and research. I didn't know that the RPM matched the engine speed. If I use a modern tiller that is geared for 540 RPM then I would have to do something to adapt the out put speed of the tractor to the correct speed. I don't know if anyone has done this as a costume adaptation or if any one made a commercial adapter for this issue. Dose anyone know????
If I can't finde anything made for this maybe I will design and build one. It shouldn't be to difficult to make a gear reduction for this. I have a lathe and a milling machine so making a costume set up isn't to bad of job.
Thanks again.
Cliff
 
Cliff said:
Thank you for your thoughts and information. I found out about the reverse rotation early on in my reading and research. I didn't know that the RPM matched the engine speed. If I use a modern tiller that is geared for 540 RPM then I would have to do something to adapt the out put speed of the tractor to the correct speed. I don't know if anyone has done this as a costume adaptation or if any one made a commercial adapter for this issue. Dose anyone know????
If I can't finde anything made for this maybe I will design and build one. It shouldn't be to difficult to make a gear reduction for this. I have a lathe and a milling machine so making a costume set up isn't to bad of job.
Thanks again.
Cliff
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Hey everyone. I had a thought. If the RPM issue can be addressed successfully with a gear reduction then one of two things come to mind for the reverse rotation issue.
1. When building the gear reduction make it dual purpose. A reduction and a reversal gear box.
2. Adapt the tiller. Take all the tines off of the tiller and switch the right to the left and the left to the right then just allow it to run backwards. The down side is the tiller would be pushing the soil the wrong direction. If I am picturing it correctly it wouldn't work as well and it would be pushing soil along with you as you till. At the end of each run you would have soil pushed ahead of your tilled area that would have to be delt with. This may not be a very effective and or efficient way to run it. ?????
Thanks.
Cliff.
 
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