hyd. oil

tomcat

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does anyone use a hyd. oil from napa or another parts store . i live 50 miles from a dealer. thanks. tomcat
 
Same here. I purchase hydraulic, engine oil, gear lub and grease from my local farm and ranch supply or auto parts store. I use the same weight of oil and lubs in my skid steers, tractors including the Cub, and pickups.

Makes things much simpler, just having one 2 1/2 gallon container of hydraulic fluid rather than having 6 or 7 different brands and weights.
 
I'm with Boss. In a former occupation we tested different oils in identical hydrostatic systems. We found that the hytran equipped systems lasted much longer than std hydraulic/ATF (mfgr recommendation). This was mostly due to the ability of the hytran to stand up to longer off-duty periods (moisture). For what it's worth...
Regards,

P.S. I work for a competitor of IH.
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I am all eyes and ears on this.
What is the technical difference?
What are the drawbacks of using the generic fluids in a cub touch control or transmission vs the more expensive Hy-Tran?
 
randallc":1lx67h6g said:
I am all eyes and ears on this. What is the technical difference?
What are the drawbacks of using the generic fluids in a cub touch control or transmission vs the more expensive Hy-Tran?
What is the technical difference? Price and availability as long as the products specifications meet the equipment manufactures recommendations.
 
tomcat":g7d7h6fs said:
..... i live 50 miles from a dealer. thanks. tomcat

tomcat":g7d7h6fs said:
i guess i will just drive to texarkana monday and buy some hy tran. thanks tomcat

That is a lot of driving. You might consider getting it shipped as it would save you time and money.
 
Eugene":2j8sr5br said:
randallc":2j8sr5br said:
I am all eyes and ears on this. What is the technical difference?
What are the drawbacks of using the generic fluids in a cub touch control or transmission vs the more expensive Hy-Tran?
What is the technical difference? Price and availability as long as the products specifications meet the equipment manufactures recommendations.

Hy Tran will mix with water the others will not

Boss
 
I have advocated Hy-Tran/Hy-Tran Ultra for years .. well ever since I started understanding the why and the wherefore. Case-Akcella Hy-Tran The important part in choosing any brand has to be the compatibility with MS-1209 standards. I have used Hy-Tran exclusively for 10 years. However last year I had to change types to prevent cross contamination. Because my splitter is going to be used by both my Cub and Ray's Massey Ferguson 1040, I have had to go to a little different hydraulic fluid that meets MS-1210 specifications which is MF PermaTran. Oh.. it is prety much identical to Hy-Tran and it includes MS-1209 requirements as well as the or exceeds component to compatibility statements. If you have an MF or a NH/Global dealer closer to you that would be acceptable. I would much prefer Hy-Tran, but I need to be able to swtich between the MF and my Cub.
 
What do you need and what oils meet those requirements?

As best I can tell, Hy-Tran emulsifies water and keeps it in suspension, others such as Hy-Gard will demulsify water and force it to separate out to be drained.
Which is better?

Is Hy-Tran the only emulsifying hydraulic oil on the market?

I doubt that Hy-Tran is the only emulsifying oil on the market and I have no idea which is a better solution, emulsify vs demulsify. I also would be suprprised if JD, Kubota, Cat, etc.. are using Hy-Tran in their equipment but they still seem to have a good reputation with whatever "lessor quality" oil they recommend.

It is not my money so folks should do what they feel is best but at $20 a gallon for Hy-Tran, I would have to see some data that shows a clear advantage over the generic oil. For a 60 year old fairly simple tractor I expect the Hy-Tran offers no advantage.

If someone has some real data and an explaination as to why Hy-Tran is better for a cub, I would be interested but I could not find any at Google University.
 
Landreo":rzpzan8d said:
What do you need and what oils meet those requirements?

As best I can tell, Hy-Tran emulsifies water and keeps it in suspension, others such as Hy-Gard will demulsify water and force it to separate out to be drained.
Which is better?

Is Hy-Tran the only emulsifying hydraulic oil on the market?

I doubt that Hy-Tran is the only emulsifying oil on the market and I have no idea which is a better solution, emulsify vs demulsify. I also would be suprprised if JD, Kubota, Cat, etc.. are using Hy-Tran in their equipment but they still seem to have a good reputation with whatever "lessor quality" oil they recommend.

It is not my money so folks should do what they feel is best but at $20 a gallon for Hy-Tran, I would have to see some data that shows a clear advantage over the generic oil. For a 60 year old fairly simple tractor I expect the Hy-Tran offers no advantage.

If someone has some real data and an explaination as to why Hy-Tran is better for a cub, I would be interested but I could not find any at Google University.

The only data I have is 40 years experience in dealing with cubs SAs and 140s. If the fluid in a T/C did not mix with water, when shut down you may have a glob of water setting in the bore of a valve, if it sets there for 6 months you will have rust.
If the fluid such as hy-tran mixes with the water you want have this possibility. I do know that units that have only had hy-tran in them are much cleaner inside than those that have other fluid in them. I may or may not be correct on my thoughts of hy-tran. But I think I am correct.

By the way there was no Google when cubs were in production :D
Boss

Edit for sp
 
Question. Is the Cub's Touch Control systen a closed or an open (vented to air) system?

Edit: Just a personal opinion. Tractor or vehicle manufacturers recommend their own brand of lubricant(s). Reason must be related to the price.
 
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