Hello, I'm new

I wouldn't waste my time or money to put a honda or briggs in a IH Cub Cadet 1200. If the motor is not running, remove the motor from tractor and do one of 2 things. Remove the head and pan to check out what condition motor is in or have a shop that works on small motors check it out.

My Son and I both rebuild small motors. Last 4 Kohlers that my Son and I rebuilt are 14 horse motors. 2 of the 4 motors now have been resleeved back down to factory specs. One sleeved motor is in pulling/plow tractor.

If you deside on adding more horsepower to your 1200 you will need to beef up the clutch to put the power to the ground. If you plan to mow grass 12 horse motor will have plenty power to do the task.

A Gentleman on this site hot-rodded a 12 horse Kohler.
http://www.ihcubcadet.com/cgi-bin/forum/discus.cgi
Check out IH Cub Cadet Pulling and Hot Rodding section.

My pulling motor is base on Mr. Kirk's Killer Kohler motor.
 
That's what I need to do, open it up and see if it's worth the rebuild.
Looks like the guage wheels are the only thing wrong with that mower. Are the spindles still available? I sure like this site, it's great talking tractors! I put in new rubber motor mounts in 3 or 4 years ago and they are still good. Maybe I don't need those solid ones.Thanks Brian
 
I just read my above post, it looks like a 5 year old wrote it!. Sorry, I just came in from snow blowing with my new 1872. Oh boy what a tractor! I have never blown snow before, I own several trucks and Jeeps for that purpose. In fact I use to feel sorry for those guys covered in snow, blowing. Not no more!! What a blast I had. Between the Hydro and the turning brakes and hydraulic lift, it was fun. The only problem I had was I didn't put the side curtans back on after an oil change. The wind shifted and I got snow up in the engine and it developed a miss. Other than that I had fun. Brian
 
Thanks GItractorman!!! I won the bid for that 60" mower you turn me on to!! I'm so excited, I've never bought any thing on Ebay before. I've looked at stuff that other people put up links for but that's it. Now I have to plan a road trip to West Virginia. Any one need anything picked up or delivered that way? Not to big I'm going with my Bronco. Thanks again to everyone on this nice site who have responded to me. It's great talking tractors. Brian :D
 
As in Paul B's post the engine mounting on the '82's with twins was as simple as it gets- the engines bolted down with spacers directly on to a plate that is bolted between the lower section of the frame rails.

As the Kohler and BS twins along with I believe an Onan in the 982 were horizontally opposed and well balanced by their nature, there was no need for rubber engine mounts as was the case with the singles.

The Honda replacement engine for the 682/782 brings smoothness to a degree even higher than that of the old opposed twins. The $400.00 above the cost of a base GX610 in the conversion kit gives you a VERY heavy gauge metal lower bracket that the GX610 bolts on to, which in turn bolts on to the original mounting plate (although it doesn't use the same holes, there are 2 front unused holes on that plate that the new bracket utilizes.) This bracket brings the crankshaft height and postion to that of the old engine.

The kit also includes a bracket and spacers which allow the old PTO clutch to bolt right on to the Honda engine. Only you have to completely disassemble the old PTO clutch, and properly reset its clearances once you get it mounted. Instructions and a feeler gauge to do this are included. Mine worked right the first time so I guess me- a two-bit truck driver, had a bit of a clue with the somewhat vague instructions :o

You also get a new muffler and a fabricated steel cooling shroud. It is NOT the cheap looking muffler shown on SEW's site, but a muffler that is very simlilar to the original one and its pipe exits out the same spot in the grille.

I thought this kit was well worth the money as it was obviously engineered to work right for my application- it was not a one-off Paul n' Vinny (American Chopper) setup. In fact Small Engine Warehouse actually buys and fits the specific kits to the actual tractor frames before making and selling them. Tulsa Engine Warehouse sells some of their own conversions too, and there is also a guy on the net who builds custom conversions he says for any old tractor using Briggs Vanguards. At the very least these conversions give you an option aside from rebuilding you old engine (often touch-and-go as to the finished outcome) or replacing with the same engine. In the case of the 682 I think the Honda conversion yielded a better engine than the original KT17. I wish I could bring the 682 out to some shows, but my OTR trucking job makes gettting home on a schedule to do so impossible.

Glad to hear you found a good used deck DoOver- the spindle assemblies are still available for most of the Cub decks, but they cost $100+ each. Have fun! :o

-Fordlords-
 
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