Farmall Cub vs International Cub

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1954Frank

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Forgive me if this has been asked and answered many times already. I'm still new here. This is what I think happened in the past. Farmall Cubs were made from 1947 to 1964. International Cubs were made from 1964 to 1979. Was 1964 a transition year with both Farmall and IH Cubs made concurrently, or was there a change-over during the year?
Were any Farmall Cubs red with a square nose?
Were any Farmall Cubs yellow and white, with either nose?
Were any IH Cubs red with either nose?
TractorData.com mentions something about the "increased power" Cub in 1975, but I could find no details.
If this info is readily available on this site or another please direct me. Thanks!
 
Top of this page, Ouick links, pdf manuals. View or download the Parts manual TC 37F Rev 6, 79 and you can see what the cubs looked like from beginning to the end of production. It has been said that IH would paint a cub any color the customer wanted.
 
Hi,
Below are pages from the Cub parts manual, showing the different styles of Cubs, and the serial numbers when they were made. You can figure the year they were made from the info at the top of the page at Cub Info.

On the 2nd page it shows the last style of round front Cubs.
The square front Cubs began at serial number 222501. It shows those were Farmall Cubs, until 224704. They were red, people on here have discussed before. There were some in that time that were red and white also.

On the 3rd page it shows the International Cub, they began at serial number 224705. They were yellow and white. They don't mention any period of time where they made both the Farmall Cub and International Cub together.

The later Cubs could be ordered in red, people on here have red ones. I'm not sure about other years.

http://www.farmallcub.info/manuals/cub_ ... 000-11.jpg

http://www.farmallcub.info/manuals/cub_ ... 000-12.jpg

http://www.farmallcub.info/manuals/cub_ ... 000-13.jpg

Below is the owner's manual for the latest Cubs that were made, they call them Longstripe Cubs on here. They have decals on the sides of the hood, with a long stripe. They came out in mid 1975, and have some changes to the engine, and have a few more horsepower, I think.

http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... index.html

Stan posted quicker than I did. :)
 
1954Frank":eprroql2 said:
Forgive me if this has been asked and answered many times already. Yes, but this forum wouldn't be near as helpful if you could only ask questions that haven't been asked before. :D
I'm still new here Welcome.
This is what I think happened in the past. Farmall Cubs were made from 1947 to 1964. Yes
International Cubs were made from 1964 to 1979 Yes for regular Cub, No for Lo Boys (1955-68).
Was 1964 a transition year with both Farmall and IH Cubs made concurrently, or was there a change-over during the year? Change over
Were any Farmall Cubs red with a square nose? Yes for a short while in '63 - '64
Were any Farmall Cubs yellow and white, with either nose? Yellow and white came with International Cub, there were solid yellow International Cub Lo Boys with round noses for a couple years before 1963
Were any IH Cubs red with either nose? International Cubs are square nose, International Cub Lo Boys had red round noses in the beginning for a while
TractorData.com mentions something about the "increased power" Cub in 1975, but I could find no details.try searching "long stripe" in the search box to the right of the Farmall Cub header above
If this info is readily available on this site or another please direct me. Thanks!Take a look at Raymond Durban's Database second topic in this forum or this link http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=87029
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Also, all Loboy’s from late 1954 to end of production are Internationals. It is on the serial number plate and the badges or decals on the hood. I see Scrivet has already answered this in his post.
 
One more detail, in the years of the "Farmall" Cubs, one sold into a commercial/industrial market could have been labeled "International".
 
Thanks again.
For some reason I like the red more than the yellow/white. :tractor: I guess if I bought an International I could paint it red. 8)
 
1954Frank":24l5tn8w said:
Thanks again.
For some reason I like the red more than the yellow/white. :tractor: I guess if I bought an International I could paint it red. 8)
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Absolutely. Your tractor...your choice.
 
I like them all round nose and square nose. But with any six volt equipment we need to keep it tuned properly.

In my old Chevy trucks my buddies were ready to walk when they turned over so slow. Then they would fire. I love the 6vt stuff.
 
I love the 6 volt stuff too. I had a 1950 Chevy pickup from 2003-2011. Real derelict I hauled home and got running... after much work. Kept it 6 volt, original generator, VR, and all. I did replace the entire harness. It could set for months and usually start right up. 6 volt systems are unfairly criticized too much.
 
I was at the Cumming, GA Steam and Gas Expo yesterday and was talking with a guy who has an International Cub ( I don't remember the year). He mentioned that it must have been made during the transition because when he was restoring it, as he stripped off the yellow paint, there was red paint underneath.
 
There's a red square nose with McCormick Farmall and Cub circle decals on Chicago craigslist that's identified as a 1977 International Harvester Cub. Nice looking tractor. It does have a full cab that looks homemade... Also has a front mounted blade. Set up for snow plowing I guess. Anyway, it does look good in red. :)
 
kjoiner":2cwvonyk said:
I was at the Cumming, GA Steam and Gas Expo yesterday and was talking with a guy who has an International Cub ( I don't remember the year). He mentioned that it must have been made during the transition because when he was restoring it, as he stripped off the yellow paint, there was red paint underneath.
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In later years, IH used a red oxide type primer under the yellow paint on the castings.
 
1954Frank":2n0jg4ha said:
There's a red square nose with McCormick Farmall and Cub circle decals on Chicago craigslist that's identified as a 1977 International Harvester Cub. Nice looking tractor. It does have a full cab that looks homemade... Also has a front mounted blade. Set up for snow plowing I guess. Anyway, it does look good in red. :)
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Hi,
It sounds like someone put on decals for an older Cub. A 1977 Cub did not have the McCormick Farmall names on it. The small circle Cub decal was used only in 1947.

Below is a page from TM Tractor showing the Longstripe decal used on Cubs, starting in mid 1975.

http://www.tmtractor.com/new/de/de43.htm

Below are the 1947 Cub decals, I don't know if the round one you said looks like these. Red paint shows through parts of the decals, I think.

http://www.tmtractor.com/new/de/dek265.htm

TM Tractor has other years of decals also. :)
 
kjoiner":1e1taepm said:
I was at the Cumming, GA Steam and Gas Expo yesterday and was talking with a guy who has an International Cub ( I don't remember the year). He mentioned that it must have been made during the transition because when he was restoring it, as he stripped off the yellow paint, there was red paint underneath.
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I been told sometimes IH used red primer. I have a white n yellow 65 with some red paint underneath. But nothing under that. Mostly the castings have the red underneath.

I also have a 53 super m with white under the red. Was not a demo, just white primer.
 
Don McCombs":1igu60ya said:
In later years, IH used a red oxide type primer under the yellow paint on the castings.
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I didn't read your post before I put mine in. That makes perfect sense for what I found on mine.

I like my 65 square nose especially with the underslung exhaust. It will be a mower tractor next year. We got 4 round noses, all of which are 48s. Thought I had a 47 but I cleaned the id plate off and found another digit and I wanted a yellow square nose before I quit buying cubs for a bit. But my heart is still with the round nose cubs. I feel they have more character but I won't cull a single cub. I know people that are the exact opposite as me.
 
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