Different dash panel

B

Bigdog

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Since the subject has come up I thought I'd start a new thread on it. I am aware of about 5 or so of this particular dash panel and all of them have been on 48 model cubs. Jim Turner sent me these pictures of one from one of his tractors. Every one has been identical and they are not shop-built.
Looking for some information on them if anyone knows anything.

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And the one my #2
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On another thread I had written:
My one 1948 serial #28930 has the long ear dash with the two gauges, light switch and ignition switch – the same as 1947. The one I picked up yesterday is a 1948 serial # 39939 (last half of the model run for that year) with the different dash. My 1949 has a different panel.

Could it have been they were changing the panels for the 49’s and used something they were testing or just using for a short run? It would be interesting to see if there are more of these out there and what the serial numbers are and what area of the country they are in.

Another thought I had from the previous thread was:
...this could be an item that was initially meant to be on the first Cubs but was scrapped. They could have laid in storage for a couple years (steel was still somewhat in short supply after the war). It's possible they needed to use these if their supply of regular panel ran low for some kind of production reason.

I am still thinking that as we locate morwe of these we will find serial numbers that are close together.
 
For what it's worth, the area where the ammeter, ignition switch, and light switch is looks a lot like a Super A instrument panel in the way it is stamped. If you look close I think I see a knock-out for a fuse holder--in the exact same place as a Super A. Maybe they were experimenting with something that would be somewhat standardized between the two?

Al
 
Barnyard":1vfit9yp said:
My one 1948 serial #28930 has the long ear dash with the two gauges, light switch and ignition switch – the same as 1947. The one I picked up yesterday is a 1948 serial # 39939 (last half of the model run for that year) with the different dash. My 1949 has a different panel.

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One of my 48's also has the long ear dash and the other has this oddball dash. The one with this odd dash is serial # 38571
 
Well since yours is 38571 and mine is 39939, I'm willing to bet the others that have this type panel either falls inbetween these number or is rear close to the other side. This has got me thinking and searching now.
 
I'm still doing some searching on this subject. For some reason I have this need to find the reason for this dash. So far I know for sure that sometime after serial #28930 until sometime prior to ser #48962 these were used. I have confirmed that these two numbers were long ear panels. Now it's a matter of filling in the gap.

I just don't know exactly when it started or when it stopped. But I have wittled it down quite a bit. I have since, found one more like this and it's serial number falls between Bigdog's and mine. Right now that shows just over 1,300 possible Cubs with this dash, if all the ones in between were built with them. However it is unknown how many before mine or how many after Bigdogs were made.

This doesn't mean they are rare or that I'm going to lose sleep over this but it would be good to know just when they were produced and even why.

If anyone has a 48 Cub and they can close the gap I would appreciate your assistance. Your serial numbers don't have to be given if you wish to keep that private. But if you can let me know if your close to any of these numbers that would help.

Thanks
 
Barnyard":1aasfn7t said:
I'm still doing some searching on this subject. For some reason I have this need to find the reason for this dash. So far I know for sure that sometime after serial #28930 until sometime prior to ser #48962 these were used. I have confirmed that these two numbers were long ear panels.
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My S/N is in the sig, and falls between those two (though near the upper end), and has long ears.
 
Thanks Rob! That tightened the group up a lot. So far the trimmed ones I have serial numbers for are after serial #28930 and and before #43427. Now if we can raise that first number and lower the second we can zero in even more.
 
I have seen at least 6 of these dashes. Two of them were at CubTug 2007 and one was Bigdogs. I can't remember the years of them though. I will keep a look out for you Barnyard to gather more info.
 
sounds like something else for the correct police to enforce.

#38966 same as the photo. not the same as my '49 or '50. all three of my tractors have serial numbers that would put them near the middle of the year for their respective years, and the '49 and '50 have the same dash-not like the photo.
 
Phantom, thanks a lot. That puts yours in the range I have been figuring. These have only been found on the 48 model and they are in about in the middle of the prduction year. I still think they were a prototype for the short ear that came out about a year or two later.

My curiosity is pumped. Maybe I need to slow down.

Thanks again.
 
The only way we may know exactly when how many and why these are this way would be to find it in a records somewhere or talk to somebody that worked there in 48. The unfortunate truth is while we think they are cool due to the oddity or rarity or just the differentness of them. The average non Cub collector may not have cared for them. So how many were replaced by the original style dash. I seen many cubs at auctions that were a hodgepodge of years bolted up. We can only rely on original unrestored or one owner cubs for the truth. Just my two cents.
 
Super A":2bzbzh3w said:
For what it's worth, the area where the ammeter, ignition switch, and light switch is looks a lot like a Super A instrument panel in the way it is stamped. If you look close I think I see a knock-out for a fuse holder--in the exact same place as a Super A. Maybe they were experimenting with something that would be somewhat standardized between the two?

Al
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Al I agree It does look like a Super A dash quite a bit
David
 
I don't have one of these, but I do find this topic interesting. Brian, cubguy47, has a '48 for sale on his site with this dash on it. Maybe he'll let you know the SN or whoever buys it will tell you.
 
Trent, I have talked to cubguy47 and his is within range. However I did ensure him I would not reveal his number.

Backswampcub, I agree with you, We may never know the reason for this or how many were produced. Yes some may have been replaced with the other style so that will skew the figures.

To me it is somewhat like the Demo. We know why they were produced and have some idea of the ser # range. Some say all of that range were white, others say just some of that range were. I won't debate that.

It may well be as Al and David say. This could be from a super A. Who knows (or ever will) it could be there was a shortage of Cub dashes for some reason and they stuck these in for the time being.

Thanks for all the comments. I do find them useful.

Barn (in search of the truth) Yard
Sorry Rick.
 
OK Bill. I thought maybe you had already checked it, but just wanted to make sure. Can't hurt cubguy47 to have his tractor plugged and the "rare" dash pointed out. Nice looking tractor, btw, on a fresh rebuild. Someone will get a good one there.

My guess is those dashes were a temporary replacement due to a shortage. They didn't come between any change in style, they were in the middle of the long-ears. Has anyone checked the dimensions and compared to the Super A's?
 
Theres a Super A setting at the tool rental down the road. I may go down later today to check it out. The guy who owns the IH dealer here used to be a salesman for IH when my uncle owned the dealership in the late 40s - to early 70's. I'm gonna go talk to his son who runs it and see if his dad may remember anything about it. It's a long shot being so long ago but worth a try.
 
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