Champion spark plug dissapointment

Sadcub

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Seems there is a lot of discussion on here about Champion spark plugs, I took a chance on a new set D21 s and I took them back out within 10 minutes.
I had some problems with Champions in my old Ford 8N years ago, switched to Autolite and never really thought about it again. While I had the hood off the "good" Cub yesterday, it seemed like a good time to blow off all the dirt around the plugs and pull them out for inspection. It had Champion D18Y plugs in it, they looked good, and have never given any problem. I needed something from town anyway, so I figured I would grab a set of D21 plugs . I do not really do anything with the tractor but pull a small wagon, so my conclusion from what I read here the D21 might be a better choice. I set the gap, coated the threads with anti-seize, and put the hood on. I was really happy when it stared on the first throw of the hand crank (usually it is 2 or 3 tries) but wait, what is this miss I can hear in the exhaust? I shut her down and checked all my wire connections and even the firing order just to make sure I didn't get something wrong. It is amazing how well a cub actually will almost run with two wires in the wrong spot, as I learned on the other Cub. I even adjusted the mixture a bit on the carb thinking maybe the hotter plug wanted something different. Nothing helped, so I put the D18Y back in. Back to running perfect. I think the D18Y plugs are probably at least 10 years old, and I the new ones I bought sure look "cheaper" to me. The diameter of the insulator is smaller, and the plug tip is not as beefy. Maybe all of that is ok, but defective right out if the box is not with me. I have a set of Autolites on the way. Here are the two side by side, not sure how well the picture really shows the differences.
 

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Sadcub":355qwsue said:
The new ones I bought sure look "cheaper" to me. The diameter of the insulator is smaller, and the plug tip is not as beefy.
The photos show the difference between a hotter and a colder spark plug, not quality.

If your are happy with the Champion D18Y, use them.
 
So the tang part you bend to set the the gap is half as thick and the OD of the porcelain body is smaller on the hotter plug?
 
Champion spark plugs has lowered their quality over the years in my opinion just like a lot of other things. I had the whole porcelain come loose in one a while back. Started banging back and forth inside the steel of the plug and sounded like it was coming through the hood of my truck.
 
I worked at Champion for 36 years, retiring in 2005. After the Stranahan Family sold the company the Quality started going down. I have seen it first hand and I would not buy a Champion Spark Plug even before I retired. The old ones were good from my experience.
 
It sure is nice to hear an explanation from someone that knows what is going on. No offense to any of the forum members intended. This guy is speaking from inside knowledge that is not available to most of us. Thank You for sharing!
 
Roger G.":3qfoe96j said:
I worked at Champion for 36 years, retiring in 2005. After the Stranahan Family sold the company the Quality started going down. I have seen it first hand and I would not buy a Champion Spark Plug even before I retired. The old ones were good from my experience.

Hmm. Champion was an Ohio company, wasn’t it? I had a great uncle who worked there way back when. Not sure exactly what he did, but I know he worked with some racing teams during much of the Caroll Shelby era. Probably retired in the early 80s.
I bet this all explains Stranahan Hall at University of Toledo, which I’m guessing was built about the time Stranahan sold Champion, as it was pretty new when I was there in the late 90s.

Completely off topic, but thanks for filling in some connections for me!
 
Let me tell you my Champion Spark Plug story. The very first tractor I owned was a 1941, John Deere B, with hand start. The motor was pretty tired so the first thing I did was rebuild the engine. I got it back together, purchased new Champion Spark plugs and tried to start it. Crank and crank and crank and nothing. Checked spark and had good spark. Double checked timing, it was right on checked fuel, getting plenty of fuel. I hate to think how many hours I spent trying to figure out why it wouldn't run. I even had my dad come over and pull me to see if it would fire up. I'd get a pop here and there but it wouldn't run.

One day I was over at my folks place and my dad went out into the barn and pulled a pair of AC plugs off of his workbench that were probably 30 years old and filthy. He said "take these home and try them in your B". I cleaned off decades of dirt, grease and grime with a wire brush and installed them in the B. Second turn of the flywheel and it was running... :shock: Again, I have no idea how many hours I spent wasting my time trying to get that B to start with "new" Champion plugs... :evil:
 
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