carlisle farm specialist tire 8.3x24

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kully560

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I am looking at this tire as there are some good prices out there and I am in need of rear tires for my 1959 cub lowboy tractor. I see that Carlisle says tubeless type or can use with a tube . is it ok to mount these with no tubes ? it would be nice to not need a tube if I get a flat to just plug them as the rear wheel weights are a pita to remove and reinstall , any thoughts would help . I also see that these tires weight a lot more than the bkt, alliance , etc tires out there. Carlisle site says 82lbs and the alliance and the bkt are 42 and 44 lbs each. would these be a good choice for the cub low boy tractor, or are they to much tire with the heavy weight of them . thanks
 
Rim condition? I would use a tube.

I don't recall that I have ever had a puncture flat rear tractor tire. Fronts, yes.

I have had to replace valve stems a time or two on rears, not a big problem.
 
A tubeless tire has another inner layer to make it air tight.

To go tubeless the tire needs that air tight layer, the rim needs to be air tight, the valve must seal to the rim and the tire must seal at the rim bead. My guess is those additional requirements are going to give you a problem going tubeless on the 61 year old LowBoy rims.
 
ok I will go with tubes, but are the Carlisle tires to much tire as far as twice the weight of the others, are they a good tire ? I can not under stand why they are 40lbs more per tire than the others. I just pick up rear wheel weights at 145lbs each and now the extra tire weight added I do not want to bog down this little 9hp machine either.
 
I'm not sure that weight per tire is accurate. Another site says 66.7 lbs. :?: But...I think the more weight the better.
I agree with others and would use a tube.
 
I called Carlisle today and was told 81.7 lbs per tire as she said we make the tire and we know the weight. the alliance and bkt are 1/2 the weight of the Carlisle and I do agree the more weight the better . my Kubota m4900 4x4 has loaded rear tires which helps with the loader . but this little machine has only 8-9 hp, I do not want to kill it also . these cubs are very light in the rear that is why I had grab the rear wheel weights locally at a great price. I do not know why but all the 8.3x24 tires I see are in the 40lb plus range and these Carlisle twice the weight . but you people are the pros with these little machines and if the Carlisle are good tires and the weight is not a problem I will order them ?
 
Get the heavier tires, then I would put 2-130lb wheel weights on them...you won't kill the cub. Some guys put 2 wheel weights on each side with a 200lb plow on the front...you won't kill the cub
 
kully560":1s9rfzdd said:
... is it ok to mount these with no tubes ? it would be nice to not need a tube if I get a flat to just plug them as the rear wheel weights are a pita to remove and reinstall...
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If I'm not mistaken, you should be able to remove the tire/rim without messing with the wheel weights. Just remove the four rim bolts, and remove...IF the rim is bolted inside the center, simply rotate the rim to move the rim loops away from the center "flats". Unless your tires are loaded, they are fairly easy to handle...and I'm a "girl"!!

I agree...go with tubes. Very few of these rims are smooth enough on the inside to ensure a good seal. Good luck!
 
kully560":1p6qktvu said:
It would be nice to not need a tube if I get a flat to just plug them as the rear wheel weights are a pita to remove and reinstall.
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No need to remove the rim or wheel weight when fixing a rear flat or replacing tires.

Actually easier with the rim still attached to the tractor.
 
Eugene":10l6f97m said:
kully560":10l6f97m said:
It would be nice to not need a tube if I get a flat to just plug them as the rear wheel weights are a pita to remove and reinstall.
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No need to remove the rim or wheel weight when fixing a rear flat or replacing tires.

Actually easier with the rim still attached to the tractor.
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Only if you are doing it yourself! :shock:
As for me, pop that tire/rim from the center and let some "he-man" wrestle with it!! Just call me a wimp!
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yes dale at my age call me a wimp also!! the Carlisle was a 6 ply tire at 82lbs, the bkt tr135 was a 6 ply tire at 42lbs and the alliance farm pro 324 was a 8 ply at 47lbs. I do not know what Carlisle puts in there tire to make it 81.7 lbs maybe calcium ? haha
 
This is not directly related to the original question. But, since the thread has devolved into a discussion about tractor tire removal and installation, I'll offer these comments. Most tire dealers who handle ag tires, including the big one near me, basically beat tractor and construction equipment tires to break the bead, using a hand tool the looks very similar to a blunt mattock. Very hard on the tire and the rim, in the hands of a less-than-skilled operator. In my area, there is a Mennonite farmer who has a side business of selling tractor tires. He uses a hydraulic bead breaker which is much kinder and gentler, especially to the rim. If you can find someone with that setup in your area, you would be wise to deal with them.
 
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