Bought a tractor rear end full of ice frooze solid need help

Why not? You can run a chain or cable from the axle housing from one side to the other to form a sling. pull on the sling so that you don't break the front end. You can run short chains or cables from the sling to the the front of the hood or hoods. You could make skids from 2x8 also. Cut 4 with a curved part in the front. Bolt them together in the front with a block between to make them wider. Taper out wide enough be wider than the tires. Score a piece of plywood (3/8 or 1/2 in) so it bends and screw to the bottom. You can hook to the center blocks and pull. You could just use a piece of plywood with holes on eack end , run tie down straps around the tires to lift the front so it doesn't dig in. Yank on the axles or draw bar not the front end. If you have a helper he can pull or push the skids to steer a bit if necessary.
You could take an old stone boat or two also or chainsaw out a skid from a big timber or tree. The possibilites are endless. Just use you imigianation.

Bill
 
I heard the same warning about the front end when I picked my Super A up. Is the front end REALLY that fragile? On the cub I can understand because of the bolster being somewhat fragile and being cautious of that.

Seems to me that if pulling the tractor via it really poses a risk of it breaking or ripping off that the first good bump you hit is going to rip it right off of there or break it anyhow and the tractor itself is probably basically unsafe to even operate.

I could understand not jerking on the tractor by it, but I can't believe it is so fragile that this would damage it. Isn't this the same place bits you tie it down on a trailer via? Don't some cub implements mount to it?
 
I am more worried about getting it on the trailer once I get it there. Once I start to move it with the dodge hemi 4x4 I should be ok but once I get to the trailer I have to hook the truck up to the trialer and use a 1-1/2 ton chain hoist to pull it up. I am affaid it wont go up the incline of the trailer. I would take and jake the front of the trailer up to lower the rear.
 
Polecat I would tie down using implement mounts. Yess you can probably get away with tying down your way but you don't have my luck. Tthere are days that if not for bad luck I would not have any.
You would be suprised how little force is necassary to move something lubricated good with snow. Block the trailer wheels use a pully or any other guide and pull with the truck if necessary. You can drive old car axles as dead men with chain or cable to hold the trailer in place too.
An extra word of caution if using cable or rope, there can be a nasty suprise if the line parts (breaks). My uncle Gene had both legs broken when a tug tow line parted years ago.

Bill
 
yes we would be using chain or possibly a tow strap both very dangerous but if you can keep constant pressure that is better then jerking.
once I get the tractor to the ramps It will be steel on steel.
 
If you can get your skis started up the ramps, it should slide. With wood ramps, just lube them up with a little snow and it'll go up slick as snot :)

If'n you can get a second vehicle, use a technique that I read about on here a while back:

Hook one truck to the trailer, and jackknife it so you've got a semi-clear shot over the front with a tow strap.

Use the second vehicle to pull the tractor/sled combo up on the trailer, over the front.

Oh yes, I would pull from the drawbar if at all possible.
 
Chad,
I bought a couple of Cubs that were both locked up. It took less than a pint of water to freeze them up. So it may not take that much heat to loosen them. I think you could drag it fairly easy if the tires were filled with air. I have pulled them on trailers before. It works, but it's slow work. If you had help, you could pull from the front and use leverage such as a long 4X4, etc. to push from the rear. Ideally, you need a couple of experienced Buckeyes up there to assist you. :roll: Is that politically correct? Work safely.
Larry
 
your welcome to come help anytime! I just want it home!
I was actualy thinking of pulling it on the trailer backwards. It has the snow plow on the front which might catch if I go front wards and pulling it up in revers might be better with the draw bar right there.
Chad
I may go down one day after work maybe try to do some work on it and maybe haul it home on sunday.
Saterday my hands are full unless the buckeyes are heading up.
 
if you build a skid out of lumber there is an easy way to move it . all you need is several pieces of 2" sch 40 PVC pipe just slightly longer than the skid is wide. once you get the tractor on the skid you simply pick up one end and lay the pipe under it. then roll the skid a little forward and add another pipe. youll need 6-8 pieces and they should go under the skid about every 18". once you have them under the skid positioned right a kid could push the load. as it rolls forward and one piece of pipe comes out the back pick it up and move it the the front. just be sure your moveing the right direction. this method leaves a lot to be desired in the "steering" department. the ground being frozen is a plus because the pipe wont sink into the earth.

ive loaded 3500 pound cars on trailers like this. its slow but its safe and easy. my description is vague at best but if your mechanical at all you get the idea.
 
Cowboy has it. I had a Cat D-4 with the tracks frozen right to the ground. Throw a tarp over it and a torpedo heater on it, and go grab a coffee. 2-hours later, nothin but melted snow, and a nice warm seat on the dozer.

If you don't want to heat, Here's another idea. Goto Toys-r-Us, or your local Wal Mart and pick up a couple of cheapo kids toboggans. They are only a couple of bucks. Jack up each rear tire and place one under each, and tie the fronts up to the frame on the tractor (depending on which way you're planning to pull it). They should beflexible enough yet slick enough to slide right up on your truck.

Another option, although a little trickier. See if you can get your truck backed up to the drawbar, then use a comalong from the back bumper to the drawbar, and just barely lift the tires on the tractor. It would not take much to lift, and you could simply drive away with it. Depending on how your truck sits, you may even be able to use some 4x4s from the bumper of the truck back to the axles on the tractor, to keep it away from the truck, and you could push it up onto the trailer. Or, depending on how big your trailer is, take another tractor to winch it up onto (instead of using the truck), then drive the tractor up on to the trailer pulling your A. I did this once with a tractor that had burnt down and was all locked up. All you need to do is just get the weight of the tractor up a little, so that the tires will skid. It'll move real easy, even if the tires are skidding a bit.
 
Chad,
I have 2 propane heaters you can use. Also I have a 1.5 ton come-along with a 20ft chain that you can use. And, if you need a hand, I might be able to help.

Brian
 
Bigdog":t5aepjc4 said:
Chad - you can carefully place a pan of hot charcoal under the finals and tranny area. Then patiently wait for the tractor to warm up enough to thaw.
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I agree with BD
you may want to put a cheep tarp around it also
I will thaw out right quick that a way
David
 
Cowboy":1hoxttjc said:
Hi Chad

When we have problems with equipment in the field. We take a generator and torpedo heater.
Billy
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I did exactly this to my SM back in 99. Bought the tractor. Stored it behind my garage. It was still in the 50s when I bought it. Tried to move in Jan of 99, no go!! Didn't realize there was frozen water. I have a large propane torpedo heater. Let it blow on the rear axle for a good 1 hour+. That was enough to set it free :shock:
 
Oooh! I like the toboggan idea better than my car hood! Cheap, and you don't ruin a perfectly good car hood. :D

I also realized that getting the car hood under BOTH rear wheels might be a little tricky unless you had a loader to lift the tractor up. :oops: If you've got a loader, what's the point of sliding the tractor?

You can reinforce the toboggans with 2x8s or plywood underneath the wheels.
 
Can you rent "wheel dollys" - have seen them in shops, and on tow trucks. You jack up each rear wheel and put one underneath. May help you drag it up your ramps.

Also the trailer rental outfits may have something, like those single axle car trailers, that may help get it up onto your trailer.

here's an example:
http://www2.northerntool.com/cat-1/89+769442.htm
 
The safest way to solve your problem is to pay someone to pick it up with a backhoe or loader. Then back your trailer under it. sling it around the torque tube and up she goes. Thaw it out when you get home.
 
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