3-Point Breaking Plow

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outdoors4evr

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Hi Guys, Need some help. I know that International made a 3-Point Moldboard breaking plow for the numbered series. I think it is a model J10 and is a 12" single bottom. Here's the blurry brochure.
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Having been looking for one of these for a while and honestly never seen one in person.

As an alternate, I could probably get something from our local TSC that may do the job, but wonder if something like this would be too tall for a numbered series loboy. I am also a bit concerned about getting the offset correct so that the tire rides in the previous furrow.
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What do you think about getting a moldboard plow from a cub and attach it to the drawbar of the 184 and then use a chain to the 3-point to lift the plow? The 3-point doesn't have any down force, but then neither does a cub without a fast hitch. Would I have to turn the drawbar around to face forward?
Looking for ideas...
 
Yes, I have the IH Model 15 tiller that I could use, but this would be prepping a new garden area that is currently mowed down weeds (and lots of rocks) I would guess that this land would benefit from being turned over after the weeds are killed.
 
You don't need down force for a turning plow - in fact it should float.

I've got a Brinly Cat 0 plow (not for sale) that I think would work with a number series. I bought cat 0 - cat 1 bushings at TSC when I thought I was buying a 184. That plow is fairly common. I believe they also made it in Cat 1, but harder to find.

Anyhow, if you want to run your tractor to Livonia we can try to fit my plow and you'll know for sure.
 
outdoors4evr":1rrfmkf2 said:
Is the 189 Plow a 12"?
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The plow model doesn't tell you which bottom was on it. 12" is most likely.

BTW The Brinly cat 0 and 1 plows are most likely 12", but I believe there may be some 10" ones kicking around.
 
I was out back today and took a measurement. The vertical distance from the lift arm pivots to the top link attachment point need probably needs to be 10" or less for a Brinly plow to work properly.
 
Seems like there should be an IH 310 out there. I'd rather just use a regular 3-point moldboard plow. I'm guessing that I'll have to somehow adjust where it sits on the 3-point so that my tire can run in the ditch and the next furrow will fold the top over into the ditch.
 
outdoors4evr":2if7g45a said:
Seems like there should be an IH 310 out there. I'd rather just use a regular 3-point moldboard plow. I'm guessing that I'll have to somehow adjust where it sits on the 3-point so that my tire can run in the ditch and the next furrow will fold the top over into the ditch.
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You will. If you look at the picture of the yellow plow in your first post you can see that the plow beam is attached to the hitch bar by U bolts. You mount the beam where the plow turns the dirt into the furrow you're driving in.
 
I notice that the IH310 also is assembled with U Bolts and is shown in the manual offset to one side.
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Anyone seen one of these 3-point stabilizers to keep the plow from wandering side to side?
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I am very unclear as to where this might mount to the tractor. From other tractor experience, I understand that the end connects to the 3-point pin at the end of the 3-point lift arm. Pictures of how this would mount to a numbered loboy would explain a lot!
 
What hitch category was a Lo-Boy?

You probably wouldn't need the stabilizers once the side-to side adjustment on the plow is set. If you use something to just shove the three point arms over, you're going to have side draft and other issues and as a result a poor plowing job. The hitch needs to float side to side as well as up and down.

Al
 
I have the stabilizer set-up shown in the drawing. I got it several years ago from a gentleman off of the Yahoo cub forum. He apparently was a machinist (a good one) and made them up for folks. I don't remember his name and haven't found it in my quick search. The set-up works really well on my carryall, rear scoop, landscape rake and also things I use the drawbar for. If you can find one get it. You might try posting a request on the Vine, Yahoo forum etc.
 
Jim Becker":135teydx said:
outdoors4evr":135teydx said:
. . . Anyone seen one of these 3-point stabilizers to keep the plow from wandering side to side? . . .
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Like Al said, you don't use these with a plow.
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Agreed.

The plow will track straight of its own accord. You move the beam on the mount to get the line where it needs to be. If you anchor it so it cannot swing you can end up fighting the plow and if it hits an obstruction it's more likely to break or bend because it cannot deflect.

The 3 point hitch on my Speedex cannot swing side to side (it's essentially permanently stabilized). It was a bear to pull until I adjusted the land side (fortunately it's adjustable on the Brinly plows) to where it wasn't fighting the tractor. I went from not being able to plow at all to where I could plow well and keep up with the big tractors.

The 193 plow many of us use on our Cubs is essentially hinged at the mount so it can track straight and deflect when encountering an obstacle.
 
I don't plow and the pic in the brochure posted above shows the stabilizers used with the tiller but not the plow. I will post a pic of mine if someone will tell me how to post the pic. Thanks
 
Use the Full Editor and look below your post. There is an Attachments tab where you can Add Files.
(resize your pictures so they are smaller)
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Once the files are uploaded, use the Place Inline button to put them into your text.
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Thanks for the help. I did a search and found it but was apparently brain dead at the time.

The stabilizer set-up uses longer pins (part #3 in the previously posted drawing) to replace the ones that hold the lift arms--the stabilizer arms are the white ones in the pic and you can see the shiny newer pins that mount the lift arms and the stabilizer arms. BTW the black triangular draw bar/stabilizer bar set up works great--I got it from a local dealer and they can be had lots of places. Together they make a really stable set up when using the drawbar. Many of the people on this board could easily make a set of them up.
 

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Not THAT makes more sense! Thank you for the Picture! It's worth a thousand words!

Ya don't see many numbered loboys with AG tires. Those look great!
 
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