12 or 6 volt? I need help!

ACasteel

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Today i bought a 70's era "international cub" I hear that its the same thing as a 50's cub but mine has a bench seat and has a square hood.

So i am going to pick it up tomorrow but i need to know if it is a 12 or 6 volt so i know what battery to take

does not have an alternator and is stock so it just has a generator

And is it a positve or negative ground?


Thanks,

Anthony
 
Anthony:


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ACasteel":202qkbhv said:
Today i bought a 70's era "international cub" I hear that its the same thing as a 50's cub but mine has a bench seat and has a square hood.

So i am going to pick it up tomorrow but i need to know if it is a 12 or 6 volt so i know what battery to take

does not have an alternator and is stock so it just has a generator

And is it a positve or negative ground?

Thanks,

Anthony

The Manual Server will be back up again later tomorrow evening... until then there are still lots of resources to read. A simple answer to your question would be 12 volts. Mid 64 I think is when the conversion occurred or maybe a bit later, but most 70's Cubs would have been 12 volt negative ground. However.. the lack of an alternator does not mean it isn't 12 volt.

Reading the TC-37F Group 08 - Electrical - Page 35 it does say:

Starting and Lighting System - 12 - Volt - Tractors w/Generator - Cub Tractors w/Serial No. 239827 to 248124... which would be mid 64 to 75 Cubs

Reading the TC-37F Group 08 - Electrical - Page 39 it does say:

Starting and Lighting System - 12 - Volt - Tractors w/Alternator Generator - Cub Tractors w/Serial No. 248125 and above.. which would indicate 1975 and newer.



So in all probability.. 12 volt battery would suffice. Hope this helps :!: :idea: :D

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I would suggest that you read this thread: New Members and Visitors, Please READ Prior to Posting. There are many great links to informative pages such as the ATIS FAQ's 1 and ATIS FAQ's 2, The Best of H.L. Chauvin who has written very interesting articles on troubleshooting common problems with your Cub. One of the other projects we have been working on and it will be a continuing effort is the How To Work on Your Cub - Maintenance Tips and Techniques. This the the place to go to get all the quick links to some very good articles written by many members of the forum on solving some of the problems we encounter as we repair, maintain and up-grade our Cubs. Keep looking for this to grow.


Also, you might want to visit the Cub Manual Server as there is tons of info on servicing, maintaining and re-building your Cub. In addition to this basic information, there are also a number of other useful tools available on the server. There is the Specialty Services page which has contact info for neat stuff like getting your seats recovered, buying quality Decals, Serial Number tags and a host of other neat items. Also there are the Parts Pages - both Used Parts Suppliers and New Parts Suppliers pages with links to quality dealers. I am always looking for YOUR favourite dealers for New and Used Parts to include here. These pages are intended to complement our Official FarmallCub.com Website Sponsors:
I would also recommend that you visit Binder Books and purchase the three most important manuals you can own for Maintenance, Repair and Rebuilding your Cub. These are the Owner's Manual, the GSS-1411 Service Manual and the TC-37F Parts Manual. Although they are available on the Cub Manual Server, it is better if you also have your own paper copy. Binder Books is the only Authorized IH Publication Reprint House and they have the best quality manuals available. Most other's are not of the same quality. Just a personal thought here, the I&T Shop Manuals, although helpful in some areas, really are not sufficient for the job. If you wish though, they are good additional reference works.

IF you really want to get the skinny on all things Cub, might I suggest you get a copy of Ken Updike's Farmall Cub and Cub Cadet's :?: . While you are at it Original Farmall Cub and Cub Cadet is Ken's latest addition to the series. Along with Guy Fay's Letter Series Originality Guide, these are three must have's in anyone's collection.

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Oh, and while the program still lasts.. you might want to check the Announcement: Navistar Free Gas Cap Offer - On-Line Form thread at the top of the Cub Forum and send away for the new style safety cap before that program runs out as well.

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First of all Welcome 8) I agree with buzzard wing. According to my application guides for the starters and gennerators all from the 70's are appearing to be 12 volt negative ground. Hope this helps :D :D
 
Anthony
Welcome to the greatest form on the web. I hope you enjoy here as much as I do. There is always someone willing to help so join in.
Jim
 
They went to 12V negative ground some time in the early 1960's. My 1966 and 1967 both have 12V negative ground generator systems. From a thread here the other day, it appears they went to alternators in 1975.
 
Makes sense. They were still putting generators on the early '06 series tractors. Heck, I don't know if '06s ever had alternators from the factory, or if the changeover wasn't until the '56 series.
 
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