Hay ride season coming - need to be carefull

[inairam]

https://www.wxii12.com/article/four-peo ... y/40758930

3 children, 1 adult killed in Pennsylvania farm tractor crash very sad

[Dale Finch]

If you get further info as to just what happened, would you please post?

[Don McCombs]

Judging from the road in the photo, I’d say that excessive speed was involved.

[ricky racer]

It looks like the tractor was owned by an Amish farmer. He had removed the rubber tires and replaced them with steel wheels. If the tread is indeed steel, they'd have little if any grip on the paved surface of the road they were traveling on. Even if rubber tread was bolted to the steel wheels, they wouldn't offer near the grip a pneumatic tire would since the tread won't comply with the varying surface found on country roads like a pneumatic tire would.
If there was hay on the wagon in addition to the 11 people reported to be on the wagon, the loaded wagon my have out weighed the tractor. The terrain looks hilly there and it may have pushed the tractor down a hill causing the accident. Too bad so many had to suffer due to someone's poor judgment.

[coppersmythe]

Rick sounds spot on . The older i get , the more these situations tear at your heart . we have a hayride every halloween . safety is always a concern ( drunk drivers ) . for anyone thinking of having a hayride , here is a list we follow . A tractor in front with lights . pulling tractor with lights ,stobe light on trailer , tractor following behind with lights and blinking caution light . all with slow vehicle triangles. we are blessed ( cursed ) with flat land , highest thing around here are anthills. It is amazing that the brakes on a cub are called brakes . adequate for their intended use ( farming ). almost useless pulling a trailer full of folks ( going down a hill , deadly ) . we live on a dead end , very little traffic. coppersmythe...........................

[Jackman]

Yup agree with Ricky Racer , about 20 years ago I was at a Memorial Day parade a big John Deere 2 cylinder was pulling trailer load of cub scouts up a hill on pavement and what a surprise the the tires started slipping at the top of the hill they made it safely but the operator told he would have had a problem if the tractor started rolling backwards down the hill because the brakes only worked in forward travel .

[SamsFarm]

I was at a Memorial Day parade a big John Deere 2 cylinder was pulling trailer load of cub scouts up a hill on pavement and what a surprise the the tires started slipping at the top of the hill.

Not enough tongue weight?

Was there too many cub scouts on the the back of trailer taking away from the tongue weight?

I cant imagine a paved road so steep as so a trailer with a adequate amount of tongue weight and the tractor tires slipping!

I am not saying it did not happen! Just trying to understand.

[Jackman]

Steep hills are common in the hudson valley Catskill mountains region the hill was steepest at the top , the road was like an upside down J , trailer was a common farm trailer diffenitly not overloaded not sure what model JD but probably an A or B , it happened .