I'm starting to get some blue smoke, oil pressure is in the 25 lbs range, compression is 95 or slightly better across the board. Was watching some U Tube video's on Cub's and one mentioned he had added a little Marvals Mystery Oil and something called Sea Foam. Would either or both give me a little more compression and cut down on the oil use age? Tractor is not worked hard, mostly pulling a garden trailer or using the center blade for light grading. Understand it won't replace a rebuild, but would like to hold off on it if I can, until next fall, more like a winter project.
Rick Johnson
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Re: Blue Smoke
its a cheap fix if it works, not much to lose if it does not, compression is about at low end , sounds like it could be tired, sea foam will help loosed rings up over time if stuck
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Re: Blue Smoke
Hi,
Yes, they say on here if the engine is smoking, to put Seafoam oil additive in the engine oil.
They sell it at auto parts stores.
Piston rings commonly get stuck, and then the engine will smoke.
It could help the compression, if the rings are stuck, and the Seafoam loosens them.
Make the engine work doing something when using the additive, so it warms up.
I have read on here of people having good results after using the oil additive.
One of the experts on here said to use the additive for 2 oil change periods.
The 1955 Cub operator's manual says to change the oil every 150 hours of use.
If the piston rings are wornout, the seafoam won't help much.
I have used Rislone, and had good results with that brand, it is an oil additive also.
I haven't used the Seafoam, but have read people's posts about it on here.
Yes, they say on here if the engine is smoking, to put Seafoam oil additive in the engine oil.
They sell it at auto parts stores.
Piston rings commonly get stuck, and then the engine will smoke.
It could help the compression, if the rings are stuck, and the Seafoam loosens them.
Make the engine work doing something when using the additive, so it warms up.
I have read on here of people having good results after using the oil additive.
One of the experts on here said to use the additive for 2 oil change periods.
The 1955 Cub operator's manual says to change the oil every 150 hours of use.
If the piston rings are wornout, the seafoam won't help much.
I have used Rislone, and had good results with that brand, it is an oil additive also.
I haven't used the Seafoam, but have read people's posts about it on here.
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Re: Blue Smoke
Stuck rings many times is a result of lightly working the engine. The northstar engine is a prime example. Crop dusting and high oil consumption cured by wot accelerations to 100 mph a half dozen times.
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Re: Blue Smoke
Glen wrote:Hi,
Yes, they say on here if the engine is smoking, to put Seafoam oil additive in the engine oil.
They sell it at auto parts stores.
Piston rings commonly get stuck, and then the engine will smoke.
It could help the compression, if the rings are stuck, and the Seafoam loosens them.
Make the engine work doing something when using the additive, so it warms up.
I have read on here of people having good results after using the oil additive.
One of the experts on here said to use the additive for 2 oil change periods.
The 1955 Cub operator's manual says to change the oil every 150 hours of use.
If the piston rings are wornout, the seafoam won't help much.
I have used Rislone, and had good results with that brand, it is an oil additive also.
I haven't used the Seafoam, but have read people's posts about it on here.
I would say that if you use your cub lightly and change the oil every 150 hours there is a real good chance that you have some sludge issues or good chance you have a stuck ring.
If it's just used to pull a trailer or cultivate a small garden or cut a fence row or something it's possible to take 5 years or more to get those kinds of hours.
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Re: Blue Smoke
It sounds like the Sea Foam is more popular than the Mystery Oil, or do I try both? It gets used quite regular, just not hard. 150 hours would be more like 6 to 8 weeks.
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Re: Blue Smoke
Clemsonfor wrote:Glen wrote:Hi,
Yes, they say on here if the engine is smoking, to put Seafoam oil additive in the engine oil.
They sell it at auto parts stores.
Piston rings commonly get stuck, and then the engine will smoke.
It could help the compression, if the rings are stuck, and the Seafoam loosens them.
Make the engine work doing something when using the additive, so it warms up.
I have read on here of people having good results after using the oil additive.
One of the experts on here said to use the additive for 2 oil change periods.
The 1955 Cub operator's manual says to change the oil every 150 hours of use.
If the piston rings are wornout, the seafoam won't help much.
I have used Rislone, and had good results with that brand, it is an oil additive also.
I haven't used the Seafoam, but have read people's posts about it on here.
I would say that if you use your cub lightly and change the oil every 150 hours there is a real good chance that you have some sludge issues or good chance you have a stuck ring.
If it's just used to pull a trailer or cultivate a small garden or cut a fence row or something it's possible to take 5 years or more to get those kinds of hours.
I always say if it doesn't get another hours in a year for an oil change, change it anyways. Oil is cheaper than an engine rebuikd
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Re: Blue Smoke
Check oil level frequently to be sure you're not overfilled from a touch control leak if so equipped. That can give you a smoker. Thins the oil enough to get blowby. (My opinion.) Plus the overfill condition's contribution.
Is the oil pan clean?
As in , do you know the history of oil used , detergent vs non detergent?
IF you don't have a bunch of sludge being circulated , it might be time for an Italian tune up.
Take granny's only putted about carboned up engine car out and bump the r.p.m.s up and run the snot out of it!
Some folks like mystery oil. Others seafoam.
I use seafoam as it's in sight more at stores.
If you have a vertical exhaust and get too ambitious as I did, combined with a hydraulic pump leak ; beware of black volcanic activity splattering all over after exiting the stack.
Is the oil pan clean?
As in , do you know the history of oil used , detergent vs non detergent?
IF you don't have a bunch of sludge being circulated , it might be time for an Italian tune up.
Take granny's only putted about carboned up engine car out and bump the r.p.m.s up and run the snot out of it!
Some folks like mystery oil. Others seafoam.
I use seafoam as it's in sight more at stores.
If you have a vertical exhaust and get too ambitious as I did, combined with a hydraulic pump leak ; beware of black volcanic activity splattering all over after exiting the stack.
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Re: Blue Smoke
Greenthumbfarms wrote:Clemsonfor wrote:Glen wrote:Hi,
Yes, they say on here if the engine is smoking, to put Seafoam oil additive in the engine oil.
They sell it at auto parts stores.
Piston rings commonly get stuck, and then the engine will smoke.
It could help the compression, if the rings are stuck, and the Seafoam loosens them.
Make the engine work doing something when using the additive, so it warms up.
I have read on here of people having good results after using the oil additive.
One of the experts on here said to use the additive for 2 oil change periods.
The 1955 Cub operator's manual says to change the oil every 150 hours of use.
If the piston rings are wornout, the seafoam won't help much.
I have used Rislone, and had good results with that brand, it is an oil additive also.
I haven't used the Seafoam, but have read people's posts about it on here.
I would say that if you use your cub lightly and change the oil every 150 hours there is a real good chance that you have some sludge issues or good chance you have a stuck ring.
If it's just used to pull a trailer or cultivate a small garden or cut a fence row or something it's possible to take 5 years or more to get those kinds of hours.
I always say if it doesn't get another hours in a year for an oil change, change it anyways. Oil is cheaper than an engine rebuikd
That's what I was getting at, or at least every two years. But I'd me more concerned with condensation and moisture in there than the oil breaking down
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