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- ricky racer
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Do Battery Maintainers Help??
You all know I'm a big proponent of battery maintainers such as Battery Tender, Schumacher and the like. I'm currently running 6 or 7 of them on various equipment from my Ford F350 Dually which doesn't see much use anymore to my motorcycle, garden tractors and other various tractors. With the number of batteries I have in various equipment, battery maintainers have saved me boatloads of money over the years.
Michigan has been almost devoid of snow this year but today we made up for it with about 12" of wet heavy snow. I took my Cub out and plowed both of my driveways out and also the neighbor who was recently widowed earlier in the day. Again, as always my Cub worked flawlessly even though it was snowing so hard it was difficult to see at times. Normally I'd wait until the snow subsided before venturing out to plow but as wet and heavy as the snow was and another possible 6" in the forecast, I figured I'd try to get ahead of it a bit.
Tonight I went out to give the driveways another round to get rid of the newest snow accumulation but decided I would use my mounted snow blower in a couple of spots that the Cub just doesn't fit into. My snow blowing tractor is a 1974 John Deere 112 which is a dedicated snow blowing tractor. I unhooked the battery maintainer on it, checked the oil and attempted to fire it up. That was a no-go. I was surprised but the battery was dead I started it up and moved it just about a month ago. Disappointed I figured I pull a good battery from another tractor tomorrow and finish things up in the daylight. It occurred to me it's been a long time since I've needed to purchase batteries for any of my equipment so I took a look at the date on the dead battery. It was November of 07! That's pretty unbelievable for a typical garden tractor battery!
Michigan has been almost devoid of snow this year but today we made up for it with about 12" of wet heavy snow. I took my Cub out and plowed both of my driveways out and also the neighbor who was recently widowed earlier in the day. Again, as always my Cub worked flawlessly even though it was snowing so hard it was difficult to see at times. Normally I'd wait until the snow subsided before venturing out to plow but as wet and heavy as the snow was and another possible 6" in the forecast, I figured I'd try to get ahead of it a bit.
Tonight I went out to give the driveways another round to get rid of the newest snow accumulation but decided I would use my mounted snow blower in a couple of spots that the Cub just doesn't fit into. My snow blowing tractor is a 1974 John Deere 112 which is a dedicated snow blowing tractor. I unhooked the battery maintainer on it, checked the oil and attempted to fire it up. That was a no-go. I was surprised but the battery was dead I started it up and moved it just about a month ago. Disappointed I figured I pull a good battery from another tractor tomorrow and finish things up in the daylight. It occurred to me it's been a long time since I've needed to purchase batteries for any of my equipment so I took a look at the date on the dead battery. It was November of 07! That's pretty unbelievable for a typical garden tractor battery!
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- Slim140
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Re: Do Battery Maintainers Help??
I'm a believer in them too Ricky, currently have 7 hooked to various mowers and tractors.
Every home is a school, what are you teaching?
- Dale Finch
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Re: Do Battery Maintainers Help??
Slim140 wrote:I'm a believer in them too Ricky, currently have 7 hooked to various mowers and tractors.
7 here, too! Knock on wood, they're all doing OK!
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Re: Do Battery Maintainers Help??
That's a great testimony on prolonging the "normal" life expectancy of a lawn or garden battery. I still need to get a couple more. I like using the Schumacher dual battery tender; has two sets of leads from one transformer. Handy for when two batteries are close enough together to get them both.
Thanks, Ricky!
Thanks, Ricky!
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Re: Do Battery Maintainers Help??
I think the biggest benifit is the battery is fresh before trying to put a load on it!
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- Winfield Dave
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Re: Do Battery Maintainers Help??
Using 6 of the Schumachers!
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- Super A
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Re: Do Battery Maintainers Help??
Nagging question for me: What safety mechanisms do these maintainers have if a battery decides to overcharge, explode, or do something else weird? I've always been squeamish about having them just plugged in all the time, mostly unattended.
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Re: Do Battery Maintainers Help??
I have the Schumachers. They automatically shut off when the battery is fully charged. You can leave them attached/maintaining.Super A wrote:Nagging question for me: What safety mechanisms do these maintainers have if a battery decides to overcharge, explode, or do something else weird? I've always been squeamish about having them just plugged in all the time, mostly unattended.
I have an excuse. CRS.
- ricky racer
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Re: Do Battery Maintainers Help??
Like Eugene said, they monitor the battery charge and turn off when the battery reaches its optimal charge. Once the battery charge drops below a certain voltage it charges it back up to the optimal charge again. It's not a trickle charger. Trickle chargers charge at a low amperage but charge continuously. You don't want that for storage.
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- Dale Finch
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- Location: NC, Chapel Hill
Re: Do Battery Maintainers Help??
Also (if I'm not mistaken), if the battery did explode or fatally fail for some reason, it would no longer charge at all...the Schumacher's require a "good" battery for it to do anything.
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Re: Do Battery Maintainers Help??
II had a battery explode while on a maintainer. I don't think the maintainer did anything to cause the explosion or did anything bad after the explosion. The maintainer itself seemed unharmed and I still use it (7 years later).
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Re: Do Battery Maintainers Help??
I have a number of electric golf carts and have been reading a lot about battery chargers and battery life. Keeping lead-acid batteries "topped off" does extend the life of lead-acid as well as other chemistry batteries https://batteryuniversity.com/articles.
Charging is another story. Many chargers especially older ones turn off once the battery is charged and are not sensing the battery voltage to turn back on. This happens a lot with golf carts over the winter. I worked at golf course that would unplug and replug in the carts every two weeks over the winter to keep the batteries charged.
There are smart chargers, chargers, trickle chargers and maintainers. I think you have to read the package to make sure you understand what the product is designed to do.
I have a lot of solar battery maintainers that I use to keep the fleet charged up. I have used them over the winter and have had better success to live batteries in the spring.
Charging is another story. Many chargers especially older ones turn off once the battery is charged and are not sensing the battery voltage to turn back on. This happens a lot with golf carts over the winter. I worked at golf course that would unplug and replug in the carts every two weeks over the winter to keep the batteries charged.
There are smart chargers, chargers, trickle chargers and maintainers. I think you have to read the package to make sure you understand what the product is designed to do.
I have a lot of solar battery maintainers that I use to keep the fleet charged up. I have used them over the winter and have had better success to live batteries in the spring.
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- John *.?-!.* cub owner
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Re: Do Battery Maintainers Help??
I have used battery maintainers in the off season on my cubs and lawnmower, plus the yer round on my power generator I keep for emergencies. To make things easier to track I use a white paint pen from Walmarts craft department to write the installation dates on the battery tops. For approximately 18 years I have found that batteries I used a good quality battery maintainer on lasted from 5 to 7 years which is about 3 or 4 years longer then my non maintainer ones normally lasted. A couple things I learned the hard way, one, is to be sure you disconnect the maintainer before starting engine..I lost a couple maintainers that way. Second, buy a good quality maintainer such as a Schumacher. There are others, but that is the first one I thought of. Do not buy the cheap ones with a transformer that plugs directly into a receptacle with 2 wires going from it to the battery.I lost a battery due to one of them. I am referring to the ones such as Harbor Freight sells for $10 to $12 on sale
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CS Bell No. 60 Grain Mill on a unmodified Fast Hitch Disk hitch prong
Home Made Fast Hitch Potato Plow
54A Blade
Couple 1948 Cubs
172 Runner Planter
53 Fertilizer
Cub-3 Field Cultivator
Cub-189 Two Way Plow
Cub-22 Sickle Bar Mower
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Re: Do Battery Maintainers Help??
I know a guy who uses 1 maintainer and jumper wires to a stack of batteries on the floor!
Does it work? Beats me, but he is happy!
Does it work? Beats me, but he is happy!
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Re: Do Battery Maintainers Help??
SamsFarm wrote:I know a guy who uses 1 maintainer and jumper wires to a stack of batteries on the floor!
Does it work? Beats me, but he is happy!
I expect that to work okay with good batteries. If one of them goes bad, I'm not sure what might happen with one or more fully charged batteries supplying more current. Best case, may be to discharge the good one(s).
I have connected two trailer brake batteries as a single battery seems to sometimes make the maintainer error out. (Is it bad or just limited on charge current?)
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