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Old Anvil Rust Protection

Postby lyle11 » Wed Jul 10, 2019 1:37 am

I have an old “Vanadium Steel” 70 lb anvil that I want to clean up and sell. From what I read about them they were manufactured in the late 30s-early 40s and sold by Sears and Monkey Wards. It is in good condition and been always been stored inside but has surface rust and most of the paint is gone. I was planning to remove the rust and remaining paint with a wire wheel and then would like to coat it with linseed oil or some rust preventative to shine it up a little, prevent rust, and make it more appealing to a buyer.

I was wondering if anybody has any ideas about what I should use to coat the metal. I have no use for the anvil and plan to sell it but I’ve read linseed oil may yellow and crack over time and is hard to remove.

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Re: Old Anvil Rust Protection

Postby coppersmythe » Wed Jul 10, 2019 5:32 am

good morning from the " on hurricane watch " deep south . be careful about what you put of the top working area . red hot metal and some chemicals ("oils") can be unhealthy . wire wheel ( fine) with a side grinder and follow up with a light oil is all i do , if ever . using it regularly is best for the top working surface . rolling stone gathers no moss . some use it , but i would avoid linseed oil . my anvil is used a lot , ( 35 years now ) , and i have cleaned it maybe twice , though it is inside . personally , i would leave it up to the buyer , if he is a blacksmith by trade , he will probably rather it be untouched . coppersmythe...................................................

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Re: Old Anvil Rust Protection

Postby Eugene » Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:00 am

coppersmythe wrote:I would leave it up to the buyer.
Never know what will happen to the anvil. Might end up as a decorator item in a bar or restaurant.
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Re: Old Anvil Rust Protection

Postby lyle11 » Wed Jul 10, 2019 11:38 am

Thanks. That’s just what I needed to know. I’ll assess it and maybe just do a quick wire brushing and leave it be. I don’t want to make it look all shiny only to create a problem for the guy who buys it.

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Re: Old Anvil Rust Protection

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Re: Old Anvil Rust Protection

Postby Scrivet » Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:40 pm

All those episodes of Antiques Roadshow taught me to resist the temptation to do anything to it if you're trying to sell it. To many times somebody wanted to "clean it up a little" and destroyed the value of the item. You are far more likely to decrease it's value than enhance it. Let the next person do with it what they want.

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Re: Old Anvil Rust Protection

Postby lyle11 » Wed Jul 10, 2019 10:33 pm

I don’t have much experience with antiques in general and I’ve never seen that show, but I know what you say is true with regard to guns. However, I was more under the impression with an antique gun the value was destroyed by re-bluing or refinishing but using a penetrating oil like Kroil to remove surface rust without removing any remaining bluing wouldn’t hurt it’s value, especially if it’s a functional gun.

So, I thought the same might but true for an antique anvil. Like a working antique gun, it still can be used for its original function. I’m assuming the most likely buyer will be a guy who plans to put it into use. So I was under the impression that I’d want to clean off the rust because it might hide a flaw in the metal or expose pitting that actually reduces its value, but allows me to be honest about what I’m selling.

I actually won’t be able to check the anvil out until next week. You are probably correct about leaving it as is. If I buff the rust off, I can’t undo that, but I can put it up for sale as is and if it doesn’t sell I can always buff the rust off and try to sell it cleaned up.

Anyway, thanks for your input.

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Re: Old Anvil Rust Protection

Postby BIGHOSS » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:17 am

Here in middle TN anvils are selling for $300-400 and more. Several years ago the going rate was about a dollar per pound. But now they are a hot item.
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Re: Old Anvil Rust Protection

Postby coppersmythe » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:32 am

let the buyer decide . i was actually on an episode of antiques roadshow when it came to baton rouge. i have a table that was built by some louisiana cajun , they estimated around 1830 - 1840 . one of the Keno brothers did the assesement . the deciding factor for its value was it had NEVER been sanded,stained,or painted all those years . it was exactly the way it was when built . it even has the original french drawer pull . the table is made of local cypress , the top is about 3'x5' , and made of ONE piece , no cracks or warping . coppersmythe.........................

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Re: Old Anvil Rust Protection

Postby lyle11 » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:57 am

I’m 700 miles away from it until tomorrow. I didn’t realize I have 1 picture of the anvil. The sides are a rough surface casting so rust probably looks worse than it actually is.

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Re: Old Anvil Rust Protection

Postby Eugene » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:17 am

lyle11 wrote:I’m 700 miles away from it until tomorrow.
Check to see if you have any Hardy tools for the anvil. Some of the Hardy tools are expensive.

A look on the internet will show quite a few of the different tools.
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Re: Old Anvil Rust Protection

Postby coppersmythe » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:31 pm

lyle11 wrote:I’m 700 miles away from it until tomorrow. I didn’t realize I have 1 picture of the anvil. The sides are a rough surface casting so rust probably looks worse than it actually is.

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the working surface looks good .it does not look like it was used much . should bring a premium price . coppersmythe.....................

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Re: Old Anvil Rust Protection

Postby Stanton » Thu Jul 11, 2019 2:27 pm

I'm in agreement with Scrivet and the others. If mine, I would let the next buyer decided what to do with it.
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Re: Old Anvil Rust Protection

Postby Gary Dotson » Fri Jul 12, 2019 6:33 am

That's a pretty good looking anvil! If I did anything to it, it would be nothing more than lightly brushing any loose rust from it. The next owner will make it his own.

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Re: Old Anvil Rust Protection

Postby Scrivet » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:27 pm

Gary Dotson wrote:...... If I did anything to it, it would be nothing more than lightly brushing any loose rust from it. ........

That's a slippery slope!

Where does "lightly brushing" end? (I'm figuratively talking about any restoration here, not just the anvil) There's always that one stubborn spot you put a little more elbow grease into. Then it doesn't look like the rest so you tell yourself "I'll do a little more to even it out". Rinse, lather, repeat.


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