I pulled the 185’s transmission, but have clutch questions..

[MikeEyre74]

I spent the day yesterday pulling the transmission out of my 185. It went pretty much like the manual said, except the PTO basket needed to be removed from the end of the shaft because I couldn’t get the creeper gear passed it and out the back of the frame. Otherwise, it was good

Right now, I have two big tires attached final drives attached to a transmission with a clutch stuck on the end of it sitting on one side of my garage and the tractor on the other. I know that the creeper gear has something wrong with the high range so that needs to come off, and I need to replace the 2nd to 3rd gear slider as well, because it’s shattered. My question is, I pulled the bolt that appeared to hold the clutch on, but the clutch doesn’t budge. If I remove the pressure plate and then the clutch disk, is there something hiding behind there that is preventing me from getting it Off the end of the transmission? I don’t really want to take the clutch off if I don’t have to, because everything is lined up now and ready to be played back onto the output shaft if I leave it alone, but if I can’t remove the creeper gear and access the internals of the transmission, I guess I don’t have a choice. What’s the verdict?

[Larry B]

184 or 185? Big difference where the clutch is.

[MikeEyre74]

You’re right. I should have mentioned. It’s a 185.

[Eugene]

If I remember correctly, you have to remove the transmission clutch pressure plate to open up the creeper.

I looked in the parts manual. The manual only shows a bolt holding the pressure plate to the transmission input shaft on later serial numbers and the bolt and the spiral roll pin for earlier serial numbers. I don't know where the spiral roll pin would go.

Did the previous owner use an under sized bolt, pressure plate to shaft? If so could be a burr.

[MikeEyre74]

I don’t think so. The bolt fit well and it looks like a friction fit nut, the kind with the semi-crimped end, to keep from vibrating loose. The hole is perfectly lined up but it just won’t slide off easily. Didn’t know if I should rap it with a hammer or not? :-/ this is the “later serial number” 185 machine tho, and there’s a difference, you think? My manual doesn’t say anything other than the thru-bolt.

[outdoors4evr]

I would give it the light hammer massage treatment.

[MikeEyre74]

Outdoors, you were correct. A little nudge with the mallet and she started to move.