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Stuck and Troubled, Again

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Stuck and Troubled, Again

Postby Eugene » Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:44 pm

Last Friday the dozer cleared around 1000 feet of fence line on the south side of the property. The dozer left some good sized ruts because the ground was wet. Today, following Tuesday, son took the skid steer and started smoothing up some of the ruts and moving some of the dirt pushed up on the fence.

Turns out that there are several good sized seeps/springs on the property's south facing steep slope.

Son was scraping back dirt against the fence when the skid steer bogged down in one of the seeps. Skid steer was tight up against the fence with the bucket over the fence. We took down the fence thinking that if son drove the skid steer forward a bit he could back up the slope and out. Nope. We now had the skid steer nose down in the neighbor's property.

3 log chains about 60 feet, a chain hoist, all of which we carried in about 500 feet, 2 1/2 to 3 hours spent shoveling the pushed up soil, setting and resetting the chain hoist, we got the skid steer back up on the cleared area and the fence repaired.

The entire time son and I were discussing purchasing a 12 volt wench. It's on my tonight to do list.

Edit. Dang, I'm getting to old for this kinda stuff. I'm sitting in my office chair; very tired, needing a shower, dirt in hair, mud and blood on clothes, arthritus kicking up, arms and back hurt, dried blood spots on both arms from multi-floral rose. Next dose of Gabapentin isn't until 9 PM.
I have an excuse. CRS.

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Re: Stuck and Troubled, Again

Postby Dale Finch » Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:11 pm

Eugene wrote:Edit. Dang, I'm getting to old for this kinda stuff...

I find myself saying that all too often lately!!! :roll: :lol:
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Re: Stuck and Troubled, Again

Postby SamsFarm » Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:01 pm

Eugene wrote:Last Friday the dozer cleared around 1000 feet of fence line on the south side of the property. The dozer left some good sized ruts because the ground was wet. Today, following Tuesday, son took the skid steer and started smoothing up some of the ruts and moving some of the dirt pushed up on the fence.


My opinion on this is to save this type of work until it is dry.

I like playing in the dirt....... And I like playing in the water.........

But...... I hate playing in the dirt and water mixed!!!
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Re: Stuck and Troubled, Again

Postby Eugene » Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:16 pm

SamsFarm wrote:
Eugene wrote:Last Friday the dozer cleared around 1000 feet of fence line on the south side of the property. The dozer left some good sized ruts because the ground was wet. Today, following Tuesday, son took the skid steer and started smoothing up some of the ruts and moving some of the dirt pushed up on the fence.
My opinion on this is to save this type of work until it is dry.
The dozer operator did work for myself and 3 adjacent neighbors, plus another small road for someone in the area. All small jobs. The dozer was there for two days.

It was either get the job done while the dozer was in the area or not getting the it done. The ruts we can clean up with the skid steer and backhoe.

My bill was $935- for dozing the fence line and half the cost of the stream cleaning.
Eugene wrote:Turns out that there are several good sized seeps/springs on the property's south facing steep slope.
This area has springs all over the place.

North side of the acreage, flat bottom of the valley, had two springs and a seep/bog. We have cleaned out the big spring on the north side and use for year around cattle. This spring flowed when drought dried up the local ponds.

This is the first time we have done any machinery work on the south fence line which is about 10 feet above the valley bottom. The south side seeps, which we didn't know about, are coming out about 20 - 30 feet above the valley bottom.
I have an excuse. CRS.

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Re: Stuck and Troubled, Again

Postby Stanton » Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:25 am

When reading this thread, I thought, "They're springs! They're not gonna dry up!"
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Re: Stuck and Troubled, Again

Postby SamsFarm » Wed Mar 10, 2021 2:29 pm

Between what you and the neighbors spent, add a few thousand more and buy a 350 / 450 Deere dozer.

Have it available when you want it! :)
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Re: Stuck and Troubled, Again

Postby SONNY » Fri Mar 12, 2021 7:42 pm

Dont waste your money on electric winches -----biggest joke on the market! Neighbor has a 12,000 Badlands on his big trailer and it wont pull his Farmall H up the ramps! Hydraulic ones are a little better, but for a REAL winch they gotta be direct drive.
I made one for a guy and mounted it on reversed grader blade off a cat 12 grader and drove winch with tractor pto. Heavy 3-pt. hooks hold it to his tractor. He has pulled some nasty stuff with and it still works. He drives the blade in the ground for anchor and the harder he pulls the deeper the blade goes.

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Re: Stuck and Troubled, Again

Postby SamsFarm » Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:40 pm

SONNY wrote:Dont waste your money on electric winches -----biggest joke on the market! Neighbor has a 12,000 Badlands on his big trailer and it wont pull his Farmall H up the ramps!


Lol! How big of a (quality) deep cycle battery does he have mounted on the trailer to run that winch? Group size 4D?

You can not compare a cheap badlands winch to a quality Ramsey or Warn winch! Lol

But any electric winch hooked up with small low quality wires and terminals not rated to for the proper amp draw, will never be worth a damn!

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Re: Stuck and Troubled, Again

Postby SONNY » Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:37 pm

BIG dual batterys and welding cables to the winch.

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Re: Stuck and Troubled, Again

Postby SamsFarm » Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:15 pm

SONNY wrote:BIG dual batterys and welding cables to the winch.

Those dual bateries on the trailer? Or in the truck?

The info I saw says at max pull, amp draw is 300 amps.

Welding cables could be #4 awg to 00 awg (2 ought), quite a difference.

Amp draw 20 feet from the truck batteries might need the 00 (2 ought) cables.

Or it just might be a junk chinese winch from harbor freight! :lol:
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Re: Stuck and Troubled, Again

Postby SONNY » Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:47 am

dual batterys on both! 00 cable to both and also, the landing gears and the tail are all electric/hydraulic powered so he hooked them all together for max power transfer. everything works like a champ, cept the winch.---well it works fine ---just wont pull a load! lol!

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Re: Stuck and Troubled, Again

Postby SamsFarm » Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:56 am

SONNY wrote:---well it works fine ---just wont pull a load! lol!


:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Stuck and Troubled, Again

Postby SamsFarm » Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:07 pm

Sonny, tell your neighbor to get one if these and hook it to his hydraulic power pack!

https://ramseywinch.net/shop/applicatio ... ry/hy-200/

Here is a good one for electric use!

http://www.ramsey.com/shop/applications ... d/re8000r/
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