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Steering question
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- Jim in SC
- 5+ Years
- Posts: 355
- Joined: Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:16 am
- Zip Code: 29527
- Tractors Owned: 1951 Farmall H - "Ray R." (SN FBH 366519)
1959 Farmall Cub - "Pea" (SN 211538 J)
1964 IH Cub Cadet 100 - (SN 92562)
1971 IH Cub Cadet 106 - (SN 380760)
2018 Husqvarna YTH18542
Tractor previously owned:
1951 Farmall Cub - "Johnny R." - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: Conway, South Carolina
Steering question
My '51 H has very sluggish steering, so I removed the cap on the bolster and discovered that the worm gear bearing was missing seven bearings. I ordered a new bearing and took the shaft off today, following Rachel's video on Steiner TV. All was good until I got to the removal of the original half steering gear. I bought a full gear to replace it with. Anyway, I got the cotter pin and castle nut off fine, but I can't budge the gear itself. I have it soaking in PB Blaster right now and will try prying it off again tomorrow. Does anyone have any insight on removing that gear? I can't get a gear puller on it either. Help!
"That's the great thing about a tractor. You can't really hear the phone ring."
Jeff Foxworthy
1951 Farmall H
1959 Farmall Cub
1964 IH Cub Cadet 100
1971 IH Cub Cadet 106
2018 Husqvarna YTH18542
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- 5+ Years
- Posts: 131
- Joined: Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:13 am
- Zip Code: 29669
Re: Steering question
I had to lift the front end off the ground. Loosened the nut but did not remove, then found an old socket that fit inside the inside of the nut so you can hammer downward on the socket. Was told it is a tapered fitting and downward hammering is needed to pop it loose. If I remember correctly I had to use an eight pound sledge before it broke loose on my 1940 model. The front wheels will drop down when it pops loose. Then remove old sector gear, lower front end down so everything comes up to normal position then install new sector gear.
Good Luck
Good Luck
- Jim in SC
- 5+ Years
- Posts: 355
- Joined: Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:16 am
- Zip Code: 29527
- Tractors Owned: 1951 Farmall H - "Ray R." (SN FBH 366519)
1959 Farmall Cub - "Pea" (SN 211538 J)
1964 IH Cub Cadet 100 - (SN 92562)
1971 IH Cub Cadet 106 - (SN 380760)
2018 Husqvarna YTH18542
Tractor previously owned:
1951 Farmall Cub - "Johnny R." - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: Conway, South Carolina
Re: Steering question
Wow. Well the Steiner TV video sure didn't show THAT! They made it look as easy as buttering toast! Thanks a lot OFK! I'll give that a whirl and give an update in a day or two.
Again, thanks!
Jim
Again, thanks!
Jim
"That's the great thing about a tractor. You can't really hear the phone ring."
Jeff Foxworthy
1951 Farmall H
1959 Farmall Cub
1964 IH Cub Cadet 100
1971 IH Cub Cadet 106
2018 Husqvarna YTH18542
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- 10+ Years
- Posts: 4988
- Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 11:34 pm
- Zip Code: 36558
- Tractors Owned: Cubs: (3)'49's, (1 is for parts), (1)'57 IH Cub LoBoy w/FH, (2)154 Number Series Loboys, (1 is for parts), '76 Longstripe w/FH, Mowers: C-22, Bush Hog 412, Pennington 59, Woods RM42CF, Woods 42, assorted FCub plows, planters, discs, etc. OTHERS: '49 AC B & Ind. Sickle mower, '61 AC D12 Ser 2, '52 8N, '56 Ferguson 35 Deluxe, '47 & '49 Avery V, '53 MM BG (offset), '51 JD M (regular), '56 JD 420C, with Blade and fire plow, '85 JD 850 (Yanmar) w/72" belly mower, '76? Yanmar 2TR15 1500 & Bush Hog SQ42S-2 mower, '78? FORD Dexta, '86 FORD LGT14D & 48" Mower, (2)Cub Cadets & Mowers (MTD), (4) Sears Surburban's, other MTD mowers, Jeeps & other misc. "treasures"
- Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: AL (Southwest)
Re: Steering question
Jim in SC wrote:Wow. Well the Steiner TV video sure didn't show THAT! They made it look as easy as buttering toast!.......
The magic of TV and video usually does not allow for the "real world" situations. The parts used when making the videos have probably been removed and reassembled several times before filming begins. JMHO
Stan in LA (lower AL)
USAF & Reserves, Reg ARMY, ARMY NG (AL)
USAF & Reserves, Reg ARMY, ARMY NG (AL)
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- 5+ Years
- Posts: 131
- Joined: Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:13 am
- Zip Code: 29669
Re: Steering question
Yep, she's put me to shame several times.
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- 5+ Years
- Posts: 131
- Joined: Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:13 am
- Zip Code: 29669
Re: Steering question
Your not too far away. I am near Greenville, at Pelzer.
- Jim in SC
- 5+ Years
- Posts: 355
- Joined: Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:16 am
- Zip Code: 29527
- Tractors Owned: 1951 Farmall H - "Ray R." (SN FBH 366519)
1959 Farmall Cub - "Pea" (SN 211538 J)
1964 IH Cub Cadet 100 - (SN 92562)
1971 IH Cub Cadet 106 - (SN 380760)
2018 Husqvarna YTH18542
Tractor previously owned:
1951 Farmall Cub - "Johnny R." - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: Conway, South Carolina
Re: Steering question
OFK - I got my H from up your way, back in February. It came off of a Century Farm outside of Simpsonville.
I took y'all's advice and jacked up the front end (using a crib of course), maybe an inch or so off the floor, then gave the thread end of the pivot shaft about five or six healthy whacks with a heavy brass hammer and it popped right off! Easy Peasy. Now all I have left to do is put in the full sector I bought (for $12 off of ebay - pretty good deal), put the new bearing on the steering shaft, grease it up with JD cornhead grease, do a re-assemble and I'll be back in business!
I took y'all's advice and jacked up the front end (using a crib of course), maybe an inch or so off the floor, then gave the thread end of the pivot shaft about five or six healthy whacks with a heavy brass hammer and it popped right off! Easy Peasy. Now all I have left to do is put in the full sector I bought (for $12 off of ebay - pretty good deal), put the new bearing on the steering shaft, grease it up with JD cornhead grease, do a re-assemble and I'll be back in business!
"That's the great thing about a tractor. You can't really hear the phone ring."
Jeff Foxworthy
1951 Farmall H
1959 Farmall Cub
1964 IH Cub Cadet 100
1971 IH Cub Cadet 106
2018 Husqvarna YTH18542
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- 5+ Years
- Posts: 131
- Joined: Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:13 am
- Zip Code: 29669
Re: Steering question
Glad all has gone well. Steering was the first item to be addressed after I bought mine. Steering was very loose, took about 2-1/2 turns of the wheel each way before I could feel control of the front wheels. Road gear would have been a death wish. Found the nut at the front end of the worm gear loose and just a small finish nail being used as a cotter pin. To make a right hand turn I would spin the steering wheel as the worm gear threads tightened itself into the nut till all was tight enough to rotate wheels right. For a left turn I would spin steering wheel left, worm gear threads would unscrew itself till small finish nail stopped the worm gear from spinning the nut off the end of the worm gear threads, wheels would then move left. My plan was to drive the tractor home after purchase, just four miles. Had no idea a small finish nail was all that held the whole steering assembly together. Thank God the fuel tank had about two pounds of dirt and scale in it and could not run more than about thirty seconds at a time. Hope you are enjoying firm steering yourself soon.
- Jim in SC
- 5+ Years
- Posts: 355
- Joined: Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:16 am
- Zip Code: 29527
- Tractors Owned: 1951 Farmall H - "Ray R." (SN FBH 366519)
1959 Farmall Cub - "Pea" (SN 211538 J)
1964 IH Cub Cadet 100 - (SN 92562)
1971 IH Cub Cadet 106 - (SN 380760)
2018 Husqvarna YTH18542
Tractor previously owned:
1951 Farmall Cub - "Johnny R." - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: Conway, South Carolina
Re: Steering question
"That's the great thing about a tractor. You can't really hear the phone ring."
Jeff Foxworthy
1951 Farmall H
1959 Farmall Cub
1964 IH Cub Cadet 100
1971 IH Cub Cadet 106
2018 Husqvarna YTH18542
- Jim in SC
- 5+ Years
- Posts: 355
- Joined: Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:16 am
- Zip Code: 29527
- Tractors Owned: 1951 Farmall H - "Ray R." (SN FBH 366519)
1959 Farmall Cub - "Pea" (SN 211538 J)
1964 IH Cub Cadet 100 - (SN 92562)
1971 IH Cub Cadet 106 - (SN 380760)
2018 Husqvarna YTH18542
Tractor previously owned:
1951 Farmall Cub - "Johnny R." - Circle of Safety: Y
- Location: Conway, South Carolina
Re: Steering question
A final update on the steering: After reassembly I took it out for a check ride. That did not go well. I could barely turn the steering wheel. Once I got it back in the barn I did some checking - all looked good on the bolster end, but there was some obvious binding where the steering shaft meets the steering post and steering wheel. I got the right size allen wrench and loosened the two collars on the shaft at the throttle control - the shaft immediately slid back 1/2" and the binding stopped. I jacked the front end up and voila! The front wheels turn left and right like a charm! All is good now.
"That's the great thing about a tractor. You can't really hear the phone ring."
Jeff Foxworthy
1951 Farmall H
1959 Farmall Cub
1964 IH Cub Cadet 100
1971 IH Cub Cadet 106
2018 Husqvarna YTH18542
-
- 5+ Years
- Posts: 131
- Joined: Wed Dec 20, 2017 12:13 am
- Zip Code: 29669
Re: Steering question
Wonderful, glad you found it.
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