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Touch control hydraulics

Postby Cubbuilder » Wed Feb 23, 2022 10:07 am

Good morning gentlemen, I am rebuilding my touch control hydraulics and found the connecting rod was broke at some point in the past and poorly repaired. My question is can I replace this rod only with one from an older style touch control unit? Mine is the newer style. I understand the yoke is different on the older model and I could hopefully use the one I have. Any thoughts thanks Bill.

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Re: Touch control hydraulics

Postby Dale Finch » Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:45 pm

Just checked the Parts Manual for both blocks, and the part number appears to be the same for both blocks:
352006R11.
#7 & #10:
http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.cleancomputes.com/Cub/Cub%20Parts%20Manuals/TC-37F%20Revision%206%20(08-79)/Group%20-%2010%20-%20Hydraulics/Group%20-%2010%20-%20Hydraulics.htm
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Re: Touch control hydraulics

Postby Greenthumbfarms » Wed Feb 23, 2022 2:10 pm

Cubbuilder wrote:Good morning gentlemen.

Ladies and Gentleman...Dale is one of our Touch control experts here. Might as well use the proper address. I'm sure we can think of her as "just one of the guys" but we will leave that up to her :lol:

I couldn't resist that one...has anyone found a way to make a sarcastic font yet?
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Re: Touch control hydraulics

Postby Dale Finch » Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:36 pm

Shoot, I hadn't even noticed!! When you grow up a tomboy, graduate from engineering and work in aviation, you get used to being addressed as part of a male gang!
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Re: Touch control hydraulics

Postby Cubbuilder » Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:49 pm

Thank you for the help everyone! and yes I should have said LADIES and Gentlemen in my address, my apologies for that oversight!

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Re: Touch control hydraulics

Postby Cubbuilder » Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:54 am

Good morning everyone, I discovered the spring washers on both the pressure regulator valve and the safety valve on my newer style hydraulics part numbers 43 and 34 respectively were broken. I checked with IH and they do sell these washers at an incredibly high price, is there another source for these washers? Also could someone tell me which way the barrel part #38 in the safety valve is oriented, one end is open and I dropped it before I realized which way it was removed and the parts manual is to hard to get that detail. Any ideas, thanks Bill.

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Re: Touch control hydraulics

Postby Dale Finch » Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:02 am

Check the HOW TO on the newer block...it has super photos and should help:
http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=42857

And Steiners sells both washers:
https://antique-tractor-parts.steinertractor.com/tractor/Farmall-Cub-Hydraulic-Parts
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Re: Touch control hydraulics

Postby Cubbuilder » Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:58 pm

Dale, excellent resource for the hydraulic rebuild. I also checked with Steiners for the washers, the price was much more reasonable than OEM parts. Kind thanks for these references, Bill.

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Re: Touch control hydraulics

Postby Cubbuilder » Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:40 pm

Does anyone put any type of gasket sealer on the hydraulic unit before assembly? When I disassembled the back plate there seemed to be an adhesive of some kind, not silicone...

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Re: Touch control hydraulics

Postby Glen » Sun Feb 27, 2022 8:25 pm

Hi,
You could check the bottom cover with a straight edge before putting it on.

The rear plate is called the head. I wouldn't put sealer on it. :)
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Re: Touch control hydraulics

Postby Dale Finch » Sun Feb 27, 2022 10:36 pm

The instructions say to use NO sealant...install the gaskets dry. I opened up a TC Block where someone had used Silicone sealer, and there were pieces of it packed in the orifice screen!
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Re: Touch control hydraulics

Postby Greenthumbfarms » Mon Feb 28, 2022 7:56 am

I followed Dale's detailed instruction at the bash, no sealant used and no leaks to date.
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Re: Touch control hydraulics

Postby Gary Dotson » Mon Feb 28, 2022 8:16 am

Yes, put them on dry and let the gasket do what a gasket is supposed to do.

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Re: Touch control hydraulics

Postby Cubbuilder » Mon Feb 28, 2022 9:01 am

THANK YOU!! everyone for your input. I will be assembling the TC in the next few days, hopefully all goes well. Couldn't have done this without the Cub forum, what a great resource!

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Re: Touch control hydraulics

Postby Dale Finch » Mon Feb 28, 2022 10:51 am

Use LOTS of HyTran (or equivalent) during reassembly...pouring it into all the holes, nooks, and crannies, and dip the parts into it before insertion!
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