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Re: 1952 Cub arrives in new home.

Postby Glen » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:45 pm

Hi,
Good you are making progress.

I don't know if you checked the shifter shaft spring, the shaft should have the right spring also.
Below is a pic from TM Tractor of a shifter shaft spring, and the ball, you can look at the pic.
The spring and ball should look like these.

TM Tractor has a new spring. :)
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Re: 1952 Cub arrives in new home.

Postby Workinprogress » Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:37 am

Was able to replace the detent balls and it seemed to stop the fork from rubbing on the driveshaft. Before installing the balls I removed the spring and cleaned all the junk out. With that all set I started to rejoin the tractor. After installing the clutch housing and putting a new thrown out bearing and bearing retainer in I was ready to rejoin. Took two tries to rejoin. I had forgot to clean the rust out of alignment holes. A little clean up of the holes and it went together.

Once rejoined I removed the final drives.

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Lots of cleanup to do but making progress.
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Re: 1952 Cub arrives in new home.

Postby Glen » Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:34 pm

Hi,
They have said on here to soak a new throw out bearing in light motor oil for a day or more before putting it in, and grease the fitting with cheap grease until grease comes out the small hole at the top of the bearing.
They say use cheap grease so the oil in it will absorb into the bearing material.
People have said they have had bearing failures shortly after putting in a new bearing, the experts on here thought the failures were from not lubing the bearing enough.

If you didn't lube the bearing like they say on here, I would split the Cub and soak it, then grease it. :)

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Re: 1952 Cub arrives in new home.

Postby Workinprogress » Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:56 pm

Thanks Glen,

The thrown out bearing came from TM Tractors and they pre grease it. So for over a month it has been sitting in my new parts box fully loaded with grease and in a bag with some grease. When I took it out to install it seemed pretty greasy /oily. When I pumped grease into it came out the top hole. Based on that I didn’t soak it with oil. Hopefully that was enough.

Touch control seals all replaced today. Also worked on transmission housings. Removed both bearing cages and installed new seals and put orings in. Neither bearing cages had orings in them.
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Re: 1952 Cub arrives in new home.

Postby smokinmad » Tue Apr 19, 2022 12:26 am

Workinprogress wrote:Thanks! The transmission was definitely overfilled due to water. I haven’t filled it yet as it was still draining last night.

Overall the cub is pretty straight. I did notice the gas tank/hood look like it fits the long eared dash (extra mounting holes) but the current dash is short eared and some of the holes don’t line up. A lot can happen in 70 years!

While I have 4 cub cadets (1512,1711,782 and 104) this is my first farmall cub! My first step will be weld up some splitting stand so I can get into that rear main seal.




Ouch....water in the tranny....wonder how rusty the gears are?

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Re: 1952 Cub arrives in new home.

Postby Workinprogress » Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:21 am

Started to go through final drives. Looks like one brake drum badly worn. Other one looks pretty good. Any issue with just replacing one?

Touch control housing question - I replaced the touch control core plug/freeze plug on the top of the housing. The old one had a hole in it but the new one didn’t. I am now wondering if there should be a hole in it to vent?
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Re: 1952 Cub arrives in new home.

Postby Don McCombs » Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:34 am

Question #2 - No.

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Re: 1952 Cub arrives in new home.

Postby Gary Dotson » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:27 am

Question #1, no issue.

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Re: 1952 Cub arrives in new home.

Postby Workinprogress » Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:16 pm

Final drive cleaned up. More seals ordered from tm tractor. Still need to remove bearings from final axle. My bearing splitter is too small.

I did notice raceways on one final drive had a little pitting.

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What do you think on a low speed tractor or do I just put new raceways in??
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Re: 1952 Cub arrives in new home.

Postby Dale Finch » Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:46 pm

They aren't that hard to replace. A drift or punch from the backside. Now would be the time.

I replaced a front bearing last year, but chose not to replace the race (looked better than yours), and when reassembled, it had a distinctive "thump, thump" that sounded nasty. Put a new race in and it was as smooth as can be.
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Re: 1952 Cub arrives in new home.

Postby Gary Dotson » Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:39 am

Bearings and outer races are generally replaced as a matched set. If you have any pitting, at all, the bearing and race should be replaced.

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Re: 1952 Cub arrives in new home.

Postby DrMom » Tue May 10, 2022 4:50 pm

Thank you for this information--Ordered a new gas cap immediately.

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Re: 1952 Cub arrives in new home.

Postby Workinprogress » Tue May 10, 2022 8:27 pm

New bearings and races for final drive. Currently removing paint, cleaning, priming and painting final drive parts. Not doing a restoration paint job but a work tractor paint job.

I did power wash the fenders. Power washer took most of the red paint right off. Paint didn’t seem to be bonded well to the primer. Primer seems to be attached. Any painting experts out there? On the fenders should I go down to bare metal or just lightly sand the current primer?
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Re: 1952 Cub arrives in new home.

Postby Workinprogress » Wed May 18, 2022 8:08 am

Things looking good!

New races installed final drive housings and most parts cleaned, primed and two coats of paint. Will let things sit for a couple more days before I start assembly.

The shiny red paint sure is pretty :D

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Re: 1952 Cub arrives in new home.

Postby Waif » Wed May 18, 2022 8:58 am

Indeed!


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