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Vbay160
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PTO Shift Lever

Postby Vbay160 » Wed Oct 27, 2021 5:39 pm

My PTO shift lever has come out of the groove in the PTO clutch. Is there any way to get the lever back in the clutch groove without removing the pulley drive. Thanks for any help.

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Glen
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Re: PTO Shift Lever

Postby Glen » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:40 pm

Hi,
You can remove the transmission oil filler plug, and look in the hole with a light, and see what it looks like.
Probably the pin that runs in the PTO clutch groove is worn, so it came out of the groove.
That is a guess, but I don't know how else it could come out.

Below is a listing from TM Tractor for a new PTO lever and shaft, you can look at the pics.
The pin should be round, and the length shown in the pics.
The pin is at the bottom of each pic.

http://www.tmtractor.com/new/pt/317fp.htm

If the pin is worn, the PTO has to be removed out the rear of the housing to replace the lever and shaft.
Below is a post from lately, with lots of info about it. :)

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=111784

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Re: PTO Shift Lever

Postby Dale Finch » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:00 pm

I replied to your PM, but here is what I sent:

You can try this...not sure how successful it will be, but it is worth a shot:

1. Remove transmission fill plug.
2. Remove the bolt holding the shifter in place at the right rear corner of the transmission cover. This will allow the lever to move around more.
3. Using a flashlight to see the clutch, see if you can wiggle the shifter lever around and work the pin back into the collar.

I'm not sure why it came out of the groove...had you installed the old shifter or a new one? If it was the old one and if the pin was worn, perhaps that was the cause.

Also, make sure the lever handle is not bent, and when you tighten the bolt holding the shifter slotted "keeper", check through the filler hole that it is positioned so it slides for and aft evenly. There is a dimple in that plate that is supposed to properly position it, but you may need to move it some.

Let me know how it goes... don't give up... it'll work out! Meanwhile, take a deep breath, count to ten, and maybe have an adult beverage...or two!! :beer: :beer:
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Re: PTO Shift Lever

Postby Vbay160 » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:28 pm

I just reinstalled the old one. When I had the pto shaft out the shifter didn’t really look worn. After I got it all back together today I cut with it for a while and it was running fine. I will try to get it back in tomorrow. Thanks for everyone’s help.

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Re: PTO Shift Lever

Postby tmays » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:40 pm

Possible that set screw has backed out and collar has slid allowing pin to come out. If so, you’ve got to go back in
Do you have the stop bracket installed for the shift lever?
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Re: PTO Shift Lever

Postby Vbay160 » Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:17 pm

Yeah bracket was installed. Guess it will go back in if I can’t get it to drop back in tomorrow

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Re: PTO Shift Lever

Postby tmays » Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:23 pm

Follow Dale’s advise and you’ll be able to get it back in.
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Re: PTO Shift Lever

Postby Vbay160 » Mon Nov 01, 2021 8:38 pm

Just wanted everyone to know I got the shift shaft back in but I did have to pull the pto shaft again. I am going to be a expert at this before it is over.

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Re: PTO Shift Lever

Postby Dale Finch » Tue Nov 02, 2021 6:21 pm

It'll be your personal specialty to share at Cubfests in the future!!
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