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Oil filter question

Postby Chas396 » Tue May 11, 2021 1:26 pm

I bought an oil filter from Napa that seems identical to the one I removed from my ‘53 cub tractor. The parts guy pulled it up and said it was identical to original equipment and is made by the same company. When I got home I found that the bolt, which is designed to go in one end but not the other, would not go in either end pass the threads. I wondered if it is a manufacturing error reguarding the filter or I am overlooking something. I might be able to grind the end of filter flange and make it fit but I shouldn’t have to do that. Any ideas. Thanks maybe the 52 is different and that’s what I have. So many parts have been replaced over years hard to say if it’s a 53 or 52

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Re: Oil filter question

Postby Slim140 » Tue May 11, 2021 1:46 pm

Make sure the number on the filter matches the one on the box, if it does, try to screw the bolt through the filter and see if that helps. Sometimes they are super tight.
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Re: Oil filter question

Postby Chas396 » Tue May 11, 2021 2:22 pm

There is such a big difference between the two holes on my old filter that it is completely obvious by sight that one is bigger than the other as it should be. It’s as if they put the same end caps on both ends and both caps were of the smaller size. You are correct the bolt is a tight fit on the old filter but is nowhere close to fitting on the new on. Thanks for the reply tho

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Re: Oil filter question

Postby Peter Person » Tue May 11, 2021 2:36 pm

This is an ongoing issue.
Check this thread out; http://www.farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=107210
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Re: Oil filter question

Postby Chas396 » Tue May 11, 2021 2:52 pm

I called Burch tractor supply and was informed that two different companies make the filters and one makes the filter that fits my tractor. I have no idea what tractor the one Napa solid me fits but they said it should fit all cub tractors (not) What I’ve learned is to deal only with people who make tractor parts their business. Too much misinformation out there for an amateur like my self. Problem solved

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Re: Oil filter question

Postby Waif » Tue May 11, 2021 2:54 pm

Sound like I need to bring my bolt next time I buy filters just to be sure.
Napa worked last time. And the bolt needed threaded through the bottoms.

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Re: Oil filter question

Postby Dale Finch » Tue May 11, 2021 2:58 pm

Yes, as mentioned by Peter, this has been a problem. I took mine back to NAPA, and they had other bad ones, but found a few good ones, too.
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Re: Oil filter question

Postby Gary S. » Tue May 11, 2021 4:21 pm

I just changed my oil last week and used a Wix,not a rebranded NAPA rather than a Fram as normal. The Wix was worse than any Fram I have ever had. I do not do any reaming, I thread the bolt through backwards until that part of the filter comes in contact with the smooth part of the bolt. Then I carefully "wobble" the bolt until it just barely slips through. The first time I had this happen I had dropped the filter into into it's housing put the cap on and threaded the bolt in. When I went to change oil the next time I thought I was going to have to remove the hood- the filter just kept spinning in it's housing because I could not hold on to it and reach in to turn the bolt at the same time. I'm guessing either the manufacturer changed their stamping die's or more likely the die is getting worn and due to the low volume of sales their not going to change it. My Blain's Farm and Fleet does not even carry them anymore or the 8N's either,sign of the times

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Re: Oil filter question

Postby Clemsonfor » Wed May 12, 2021 7:01 am

That does seem weird that a farm and fleet store won't carry this common international filter or one for the 8n tractor. There still is quite a few 8n tractors in service. I see wag more N tractors working than cubs or number internationals.

This filter thing ought to be a sticky, seems like it comes up a few times a year.

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Re: Oil filter question

Postby Gary S. » Thu May 13, 2021 9:16 pm

Well as the area gets more gentrified where there were once farm are now housing tracts the merchants have to go with the flow as well I guess. Thats why I have been having to go get my filters elsewhere. The last time I bought one there,now over a year ago,it was 14.00 anyway so it was time to move on. These Wix I got on ebay for 9 delivered.

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Re: Oil filter question

Postby Roger G. » Fri May 14, 2021 8:09 am

I have had the same problem with a Cub filter from NAPA. The filter was defective, I took it back and got a good one.
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Re: Oil filter question

Postby Alex Hart » Fri May 14, 2021 7:36 pm

I've recently encountered the same problem with the wix/napa filters. I have always bought Wix and never had trouble, but I bought one the other day, wouldn't even think about going in. Bought another Wix, same thing. I said screw it, I went and bought a Baldwin and slid right in. Parts guy said that the cause was most likely a bad batch, he had the same thing happen a few years ago but eventually cleared up.

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Re: Oil filter question

Postby Gary Dotson » Sat May 15, 2021 7:08 am

It's taking a long time to get that bad batch out of the system, I suspect that when they are returned, many retailers put them right back on the shelf only to sell to the next unsuspecting buyer.


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