Throttle assembly vs. throttle cable

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Throttle assembly vs. throttle cable

Postby CapeCodCubs » Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:19 am

I don't think I have heard this asked. Can the throttle assembly be replaced with a throttle link cable like on the Lo Boy 154?

Same engine ( more or less ) with a governor assembly. Lo Boy has the throttle cable set up.

Kind of sick of worn out teeth on the throttle shift plate.

The new ones wear out in a season. Any thoughts on this? I might be getting confused about the Lo Boys using that cable set up.



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Re: Throttle assembly vs. throttle cable

Postby john2189 » Sat Apr 24, 2021 1:59 pm

Don’t know why you couldn’t. You would need one of these
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and a cable that you can tighten the lever. So the governor won’t keep pulling it back to idle. Or one of the pull type that you pull then twist to lock it
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Re: Throttle assembly vs. throttle cable

Postby SamsFarm » Sat Apr 24, 2021 4:38 pm

Time to weld up your saw teeth with some 4140 and reshape them!

Note......

When using a Cub throttle, try to get in the hang of pushing the throttle lever to the left before pushing it forward!

But, I think your idea of a numbered lowboy throttle would work too.
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Re: Throttle assembly vs. throttle cable

Postby CapeCodCubs » Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:23 pm

john2189 wrote:Don’t know why you couldn’t. You would need one of theseC7BE3F9B-11F9-4085-B9F3-CA79C2D8880D.jpeg and a cable that you can tighten the lever. So the governor won’t keep pulling it back to idle. Or one of the pull type that you pull then twist to lock it


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Re: Throttle assembly vs. throttle cable

Postby CapeCodCubs » Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:28 pm

SamsFarm wrote:Time to weld up your saw teeth with some 4140 and reshape them!

Note......

When using a Cub throttle, try to get in the hang of pushing the throttle lever to the left before pushing it forward


:shock: hmmmmm that makes sense. Probably why they are worn. Will try a few things...new teeth and the link cable.

Thank you Sam

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Re: Throttle assembly vs. throttle cable

Postby Jim Becker » Sat Apr 24, 2021 11:09 pm

I don't think there is any magic in the cable. The friction pad built into the control may be what provides the behavior you are looking for.

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Re: Throttle assembly vs. throttle cable

Postby SONNY » Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:40 am

I want to change my 185 to the regular cub linkage to get rid of the problematic cable set-up on these!! The cable is a pita! ---never works right, cable gets tight in housing and you can operate it.
I could see using a truck pto cable being they are bigger, but still the problem with them sticking.
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Re: Throttle assembly vs. throttle cable

Postby CapeCodCubs » Sun Apr 25, 2021 2:46 pm

SONNY wrote:I want to change my 185 to the regular cub linkage to get rid of the problematic cable set-up on these!! The cable is a pita! ---never works right, cable gets tight in housing and you can operate it.
I could see using a truck pto cable being they are bigger, but still the problem with them


I am just trying to figure out some way around having to hold my hand on the throttle when plowing and cultivating. The throttle lever wears down as well.

Maybe what Sam said add hardened steel.
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Re: Throttle assembly vs. throttle cable

Postby Matt Kirsch » Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:58 pm

The reproductions are probably not made out of the greatest material, and are likely not as thick as the originals, so they will wear faster.

But if you don't "rake" the throttle lever across the teeth, it can't wear. Maybe you need a father figure throwing rocks at your head each time you do it to break you of the habit? LOL

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Re: Throttle assembly vs. throttle cable

Postby CapeCodCubs » Mon Apr 26, 2021 2:02 pm

Matt Kirsch wrote:The reproductions are probably not made out of the greatest material, and are likely not as thick as the originals, so they will wear faster.

But if you don't "rake" the throttle lever across the teeth, it can't wear. Maybe you need a father figure throwing rocks at your head each time you do it to break you of the habit? LOL


ya ya ya, I get it. Yes, bad habit...only problem with the rock idea is we don't have any in the field.
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Re: Throttle assembly vs. throttle cable

Postby Nelson 634 » Tue Apr 27, 2021 12:47 am

ya ya ya, I get it. Yes, bad habit...only problem with the rock idea is we don't have any in the field.


No rocks in the field!! Really.... Whats that Like.

We grow rocks here in Nelson County, Virginia Big crops every year.
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Re: Throttle assembly vs. throttle cable

Postby inairam » Tue Apr 27, 2021 6:51 am

I hate the throttle bounding also but the cables are no picnic. I have purchase repop parts and repaired them.

The governor control sector is available http://www.tmtractor.com/new/gv/689fp.htm but expensive. The problem is getting a repop throttle lever. http://www.tmtractor.com/new/gv/415fp.htm

you have to get the worn area welded and grind/ file it into shape.

I have purchased the assembly from Steiner and have been happy https://www.steinertractor.com/IHS587
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Re: Throttle assembly vs. throttle cable

Postby Rick Spivey » Tue Apr 27, 2021 7:08 am

I've repaired several sectors and levers with a Mig welder. And I'm no welder. It's really quite easy, even the shaping part. And as stated, if you don't rake the lever across the teeth, they hold up for years.
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Re: Throttle assembly vs. throttle cable

Postby CapeCodCubs » Thu Apr 29, 2021 9:08 am

Nelson 634 wrote:
ya ya ya, I get it. Yes, bad habit...only problem with the rock idea is we don't have any in the field.


No rocks in the field!! Really.... Whats that Like.

We grow rocks here in Nelson County, Virginia Big crops every year.
When I bought the property in my late 20's the house was a run down Victorian farmhouse with run down barns...easy fix but had a site report noting 2 feet of top soil. Before the closing people were stealing the soil I was told, there were holes in the fields. We do have big rocks up here, I build a lot of stone walls for fun projects and there are quarries all around here, we just have a good spot, where flooding once dumped a lot of river silt over a huge plain, plus years of Indians and later settlers growing here helped.

My neighbor is helping me tonight with some fixes to the throttles. :)
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