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Cadet Trans

Postby Barnyard » Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:58 pm

Are these the same ones that fit a Cub? They are out of Originals.

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Re: Cadet Trans

Postby SamsFarm » Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:45 pm

I think so!

Do they have the block off cover on the back where the pto housing screws to for the big cubs?

There is a picture in the farmall cub / cub cadet book (page 59) of the transmission assembly line where both cub and cub cadet transmissions were being assembled at the same time!
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Re: Cadet Trans

Postby Barnyard » Sun Mar 14, 2021 11:49 pm

SamsFarm wrote:Do they have the block off cover on the back where the pto housing screws to for the big cubs?
I only have the pic.

SamsFarm wrote:There is a picture in the farmall cub / cub cadet book (page 59) of the transmission assembly line where both cub and cub cadet transmissions were being assembled at the same time!

Okay, so does that mean the Original trans is what they were building in that picture on page 59?
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Re: Cadet Trans

Postby SamsFarm » Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:07 am

Barnyard wrote:Okay, so does that mean the Original trans is what they were building in that picture on page 59?


Do you have the book?

I only did a quick glance to jog my memory before jumping back in bed! Lol

I cant say for sure, but I think they used the same basic set-up on all 3 speed gear shift IH cub cadets!

I have a cub cadet that I have to get going (cant think of the model this moment) ( might be a model 1200), it has the same basic trans, but with different (heavier) axle housings and disk brakes.
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Re: Cadet Trans

Postby CharlieK » Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:07 am

one of the gears (2nd) I think has 1 less tooth-- I have 2 cadet cases and have used the gears in 1 of 'em
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Re: Cadet Trans

Postby Gary Dotson » Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:32 am

You can use the gears out of any of them with a cast iron case. You can even use the case with a couple small mods.

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Re: Cadet Trans

Postby john2189 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:08 am

Isn’t the ring gear on the wrong side? You have to remove it and flip it around, or you would have 3 reverse and one forward.
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Re: Cadet Trans

Postby indy61 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:13 am

Barnyard wrote:Okay, so does that mean the Original trans is what they were building in that picture on page 59?


Yes, according to the Wisconsin Historical Society the photo was taken in 1961.

https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Image/IM79923

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Re: Cadet Trans

Postby Gary Dotson » Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:49 am

Yes, john, the ring has to be flipped, assuming you're using the case and all.

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Re: Cadet Trans

Postby Barnyard » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:11 am

Thanks Charley and Gary, you answered what I needed to know.
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Re: Cadet Trans

Postby Peter Person » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:28 am

Art Chester (artc) has converted many Cub Cadet transmissions over for use on the Farmall Cub or International Cub Loboy. This included flipping the ring gear around but also I seem to recall there was a "port" missing on the Cub Cadet case that he added for use on the Cubs. Not sure if it was the cases from the Original or subsequent Cub Cadets. Maybe he'll see this post and chime in.
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Re: Cadet Trans

Postby Barnyard » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:33 am

Peter, I bought one from Art, but I couldn't remember which ones he used. That's why I thought I better ask.
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Re: Cadet Trans

Postby Peter Person » Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:25 am

Barnyard wrote:Peter, I bought one from Art, but I couldn't remember which ones he used. That's why I thought I better ask.


Bill,
My recollection is that both will work but the since the Originals used a belt drive system vs the direct drive of the subsequent models, there was something about the case that needed to be changed.

Here's a link to a good post on the topic;
http://farmallcub.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=50512&p=420742&hilit=artc+Cub+Cadet+Transmission#p420742
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Re: Cadet Trans

Postby Barnyard » Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:30 am

Peter Person wrote:
Barnyard wrote:Peter, I bought one from Art, but I couldn't remember which ones he used. That's why I thought I better ask.


Bill,
My recollection is that both will work but the since the Originals used a belt drive system vs the direct drive of the subsequent models, there was something about the case that needed to be changed.

So it sounds like the ones in the Originals would not bolt up.

These are for sale down the road from me, but I will pass on them if they won't work.
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Re: Cadet Trans

Postby indy61 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:36 am

The early Cadet trans is the best for a Cub. The belt drive has nothing to do with it.


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