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Need new seat?? and mystery bolt found in seat

Postby Command52 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:55 pm

As you know im restoring this tractor from top to bottom . Now the seat questions
Is this seat an original pan
is it worth recovering back to original {IS COVER AVAIBLE ?? }
What fabric is original to the 1957 cub
Is the drain hole original
If need new seat who sells the nicest reproduction

Also the picture of the bolt lying on the seat was found in the seat any ideas what it is Bolt is. It about 1 1/8 long not counting head
Head is 5/8 and has holes on all sides and has a hole through the center
bolt is a 7/16

Sorry about the dumb questions but I'm trying to do this as correct as possible Thank You
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Re: Need new seat?? and mystery bolt found in seat

Postby Clemsonfor » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:18 pm

Looks like someone home made machined bolt to let water ho through

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Re: Need new seat?? and mystery bolt found in seat

Postby Command52 » Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:20 pm

The bolt was basically just laying on its side under the foam not in the hole

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Re: Need new seat?? and mystery bolt found in seat

Postby Barnyard » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:16 pm

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Re: Need new seat?? and mystery bolt found in seat

Postby Peter Person » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:19 pm

My 1957 had it’s original silver canvas on it when I bought it in 2005. Canvas was well worn and the “foam” padding was crumbling.
Opted to take it down to bare metal, prime, and paint it with rattle can 2150 Red. Bought a silver vinyl padded cover fro TM Tractor and haven’t looked back.
Don’t know if anyone has picked up the mantle from Darrell Darst after he passed away a few years ago. His seat restorations were spot on.
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Re: Need new seat?? and mystery bolt found in seat

Postby Don McCombs » Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:47 pm

Right now, your two options for an original style seat are the repro that Barnyard linked to and this DIY option...

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Re: Need new seat?? and mystery bolt found in seat

Postby Stanton » Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:12 am

I can tell you that the black canvas I used in that How To faded very quickly and I was disappointed with it. If you believe time = money, and want a good looking, longer lasting seat cover, then the manufactured one linked in Barnyard's post would probably suit you better.

And, NO! you would never put a bolt in the drain hole of a pan seat, no matter how many holes someone drilled into it. Regardless of how dense that foam rubber is, remember, it's still foam rubber! I know that bolt would be FELT when someone's backside was firmly planted! :lol:
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Re: Need new seat?? and mystery bolt found in seat

Postby Clemsonfor » Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:32 am

Stanton wrote:I can tell you that the black canvas I used in that How To faded very quickly and I was disappointed with it. If you believe time = money, and want a good looking, longer lasting seat cover, then the manufactured one linked in Barnyard's post would probably suit you better.

And, NO! you would never put a bolt in the drain hole of a pan seat, no matter how many holes someone drilled into it. Regardless of how dense that foam rubber is, remember, it's still foam rubber! I know that bolt would be FELT when someone's backside was firmly planted! :lol:
I didn't say it was a good idea. But who knows what people of the past were thinking on some of these things that were done? :lol:

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Re: Need new seat?? and mystery bolt found in seat

Postby Stanton » Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:39 am

Clemsonfor wrote:...I didn't say it was a good idea...



I realize that and certainly don't imply that you did. I was just shocked that anyone putting a bolt, with a tall head like that, down under a foam seat and not be able to feel it...wow! I guess it might have a centering effect on the driver(?)!!

The story of the Princess and the Pea comes to mind... :lol:
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Re: Need new seat?? and mystery bolt found in seat

Postby inairam » Tue Feb 16, 2021 7:46 am

The re pop white canvas ones I find still absorb water. The red and white vinyl one[b][b] with hole [/b][/b]while, not original, do a better job at keeping the butt dry.

I got K&M sets made in USA from https://www.tractorseats.com/p-561-inte ... -ring.aspx

REcommend stainless bolts and some lub or anti-seize.
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Re: Need new seat?? and mystery bolt found in seat

Postby Gary Dotson » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:05 am

I've bought a couple of the reproduction seats. The first one was the silver canvas, I cheaped out and got one without the drain hole, Bad Idea!! That one didn't hold up and was recalled by the manufacturer, the replacement did better. The silver canvas lost it's good looks pretty early on but hasn't gotten any worse. For the second one, I opted for the silver vinyl, was only available without the drain, got it anyway. It's held up good and still looks good, it is on Cubota. The price of them has increased a good bit!
Stanton, I commend the effort in restoring the original seat, sure was a lot of work, though! End result looked great!

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Re: Need new seat?? and mystery bolt found in seat

Postby SamsFarm » Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:02 pm

Clemsonfor wrote:Looks like someone home made machined bolt to let water ho through


The head of the bolt is drilled for safety wire!
959BFBE9-77A0-413B-A9ED-F6EC782BB6A7.jpeg

Popular in aircraft and military applications.

My bet is someone set the bolt on the seat and it got knocked in the cracked seat material and lost till now!

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Re: Need new seat?? and mystery bolt found in seat

Postby JimCub48 » Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:25 pm

This bolt looks a little bigger, but isn't there a similar bolt on the govenor (with tamper proof wire) ??

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Re: Need new seat?? and mystery bolt found in seat

Postby Clemsonfor » Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:38 pm

SamsFarm wrote:
Clemsonfor wrote:Looks like someone home made machined bolt to let water ho through


The head of the bolt is drilled for safety wire!
959BFBE9-77A0-413B-A9ED-F6EC782BB6A7.jpeg
Popular in aircraft and military applications.

My bet is someone set the bolt on the seat and it got knocked in the cracked seat material and lost till now!

Maybe I say something wrong but wasn't there a hole through the bolt, like a banjo bolt.


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