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Tire chains and tire sizes cub vs 130

Postby inairam » Tue Dec 15, 2020 6:59 pm

I have a cub and a 130 both with Firestone 9.5-24 tires R3 "cross" pattern. I have two sets of tire chains that fit the cub. I got nowhere close to getting them on the 130.

I know the rims are different widths. I was a little surprised when I saw they were the same size because they look different mounted on the different rims.

Should they fit and I did not try hard enough? I do have a plow cub ready. The 130 has the IH1000 loader and it could use the added traction.
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Re: Tire chains and tire sizes cub vs 130

Postby Barnyard » Tue Dec 15, 2020 7:57 pm

Wider rims will allow your tires to bulge out a little farther. That may be why they don't fit.
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Re: Tire chains and tire sizes cub vs 130

Postby inairam » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:10 pm

Barnyard, That is what I would think but I looked up buying chains and they ask for tire size ( 9.5 x 24) and not rim width.

I did order this for $15 on amazon to see if I can get it tighter.
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Re: Tire chains and tire sizes cub vs 130

Postby tst » Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:35 pm

let some air out 1st

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Re: Tire chains and tire sizes cub vs 130

Postby Bill Hudson » Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:28 am

inairam wrote:... I did order this for $15 on amazon to see if I can get it tighter.


You'll be glad you did.

tst wrote:let some air out 1st


No fluid in my tires, so I just pull the valve stem them mount the chains as tight as I can before installing the valve stem and filling with air. Works very well for me, not much in the way of flopping cross chains.

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Re: Tire chains and tire sizes cub vs 130

Postby inairam » Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:10 pm

My real question is should the chains fit. I stopped because I started thinking they will not fit. I know some of the tricks. I have put the chains on the cub before. I am just new to the bigger tractor.
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Re: Tire chains and tire sizes cub vs 130

Postby Urbish » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:01 pm

In a pinch you can use some short pieces of chain connected with a lap links or threaded quick links to extend the non-hook end of the chains so that they can still install.
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Re: Tire chains and tire sizes cub vs 130

Postby Urbish » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:14 pm

To address your earlier question, I have seen many cases where two different ag tires marked as the same size were quite a bit different in diameter, tread width, and/or cross section width. It seems to me that the size markings for ag tires are not to any kind of exact standard. Like Barnyard said, if the rims are a different width with the exact same tire, that will affect how the chains fit as well.
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Re: Tire chains and tire sizes cub vs 130

Postby Nelson 634 » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:29 pm

Maybe hes asking if putting his chains on these tires will result in damage to wheel, tire, or tractor and is it safe to do so.
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Re: Tire chains and tire sizes cub vs 130

Postby Urbish » Wed Dec 16, 2020 3:50 pm

My ladder chains were pretty loose on the old knobby turf tread 8-24 tires on my LoBoy. I put 9.5-25 Carlisle turf tires on over the summer and, as expected, the chains appeared to be too short. But I added one threaded quick link to each side and used a ratchet strap to pull them together. They're on really tight, but will do for now. I'll add another threaded quick link after my next hardware store trip as I like them to be slightly loose.

As to Walter's comment, you should be fine putting those chains on the 130 so long as you have the wheels spaced out enough that the chains won't snag the fenders, operator platform, or most importantly THE OPERATOR.
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Re: Tire chains and tire sizes cub vs 130

Postby inairam » Thu Dec 17, 2020 10:51 am

Urbish wrote:To address your earlier question, I have seen many cases where two different ag tires marked as the same size were quite a bit different in diameter, tread width, and/or cross section width. It seems to me that the size markings for ag tires are not to any kind of exact standard. Like Barnyard said, if the rims are a different width with the exact same tire, that will affect how the chains fit as well.


These are two of the same brand tire and size tire just one different rims. People seem to think they should fit so I will give it another try. I was getting ready for the storm and did not want to burn too much time on this tractor when I had another to also get ready.
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Re: Tire chains and tire sizes cub vs 130

Postby Matt Kirsch » Wed Jan 27, 2021 10:31 am

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What kind of problem are/were you having with the fit of the chains? Too narrow? Too short?

Have you compared the chains that fit the Cub with the chains you're trying to fit on the 130?

Rim width won't change the external dimensions of the tire, only the width of the tire at the bead. Are you sure you don't have 9.5x24 on the cub and 9-24 (aka 11.2x24) on the 130?

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Re: Tire chains and tire sizes cub vs 130

Postby Yogie » Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:55 am

I would think the 130 would and should have larger tires than a 9.5x24
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Re: Tire chains and tire sizes cub vs 130

Postby outdoors4evr » Thu Jan 28, 2021 6:20 am

I think this set of chains should fit. Wider rims should reduce the circumference of the tire, but also force the side chains to ride higher on the rubber (further from the rim)
Make certain that there are no twists in the chain - where an end of the chain has looped through a ladder hole. These eat up space quickly in a set of chains. Identify these places by laying the chain out flat on the floor. Look for a hinky twist in the side chains.
If found, try to thread the end of the chain through the ladder and pull it through. If the twist gets worse, then you may have looped it through the wrong way. In that case, thread it through the opposite direction (twice).
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Re: Tire chains and tire sizes cub vs 130

Postby Lt.Mike » Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:41 am

Urbish wrote:To address your earlier question, I have seen many cases where two different ag tires marked as the same size were quite a bit different in diameter, tread width, and/or cross section width. It seems to me that the size markings for ag tires are not to any kind of exact standard. Like Barnyard said, if the rims are a different width with the exact same tire, that will affect how the chains fit as well.

Tire plys have a lot to do with that.
When you see 9.5 x 24 you see the tire width and rim diameter not the overall diameter of the tire.
Look up a specific brand at a specific “size” and the the number of plys. As the number of plys go up the diameter increases.
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