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IH 1000 loader questions

Postby CapeCodCubs » Sun Nov 15, 2020 12:12 am

Hello all,

Just picked up another Cub that I could not pass up. This past Thursday I was working from home and dogsitting our 3 dogs - a Plott Hound, Fox Hound and Border Collie and it was nothing but chaos. Trying to destress I looked on Facebook Marketplace and saw an ad for a 65 Lo Boy with a 1000 loader for $400.00 10 miles away and the ad had just posted. I messaged the guy instantly and he gave me his number and we talked for a long while and he said I was the first person to call and I had first shot. Then he got 50 messages and calls, most offering more money. The seller got confused, listed it as sold. I tried calling and messaging him and cold silence. I thought I lost it. Well later Friday night he said it was worth $2000...but I could see it, offered more if he wanted.
I thought it was gone and he called me today around 10 and said I could come and look at it, my buddies came over with a trailer and the gentleman said he would honor the first dib offer and hold the price even though others including myself offered more.
I got a 1966 Cub with Loader for $400! Serial #22345

Questions

Color---------what color should it be?

Decals--------where can I find decals (Tim?)

Prep work to paint-----sandblasting? or just wire brushing?

Hoses--------it doesn't look like hoses are available through IH, sources? Local? or Online supply source?

Tips on restoring it?

Tips on removing it to paint...bucket is off already but looks heavy.

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Re: IH 1000 loader questions

Postby Glen » Sun Nov 15, 2020 1:57 am

Hi,
The 1000 loaders made after the yellow and white Cubs and LoBoys came out were white, as far as I know.

Below is the operator's manual, and parts manual for the 1000 loader, if you don't have them.
The operator's manual says 1962 on the last page, so it might look like it is not white. :)

http://farmallcub.com/rudi_cub/www.clea ... index.html

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130 with international 1000 loader 6 v
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Re: IH 1000 loader questions

Postby inairam » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:21 am

You better go to church today!

As far as the hoses your best bet is to go a hydraulics shop with the old hoses and have them may them to the same length and fitting. It will be fast and not that expensive.

Mark how the hoses are before removal but do not assume a PO knew what they were doing or modified them in some way. Look at the manual to confirm that the hoses are correctly installed. Mine came from someone who knew what they were doing but modified it so think got tricky when I moved it to a different tractor.
When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!

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C-16 Cub Middlebuster
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NOS Planet Jr. planter
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Cole 250# fertilizer hopper with chain drive.
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Re: IH 1000 loader questions

Postby CapeCodCubs » Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:40 am

inairam wrote:You better go to church today!



Ha, my mother is a minister so I get a pass today, but I know what you mean...it was a gift from someone upstairs.

Glenn and Peter thanks for the tips. Any suggestions on where to get the paint? I might ask the guys at TM but most likely thinking Columbia Tractor (IH dealer in NY).

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1950 with plow, 54 blade, mott mag 6v - Roxanne
1953 54 blade, c22, wood 42 6v
1957 6v - barn Queen
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower 12 v - Loboy
1974 Horse II 12 v c-2
1975 with woods 42-6 12 v - Horse
1979 long strip 12 v stuck engine
130 with international 1000 loader 6 v
1969 140 with bush hog tow behind mower 12 v
Terramite T-6 4WD Backhoe Perkins diesel
Memberships: Rough and Tumble Engineers Historical Association;Chapter 8 IH Collectors; IH Collectors Worldwide
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Re: IH 1000 loader questions

Postby inairam » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:45 pm

Most of the ones I have seen are white and you can purchase the IH white. There is a paint cross-reference chart on the site somewhere
When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!

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Re: IH 1000 loader questions

Postby Glen » Sun Nov 15, 2020 6:40 pm

Hi,
TM Tractor has spray cans of Case IH white, red, yellow, and silver.

I'm not sure if the white is the same as the loader, but probably.

http://www.tmtractor.com/new/sp/935fp.htm

The dealers have paint too. :)

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1950 with plow, 54 blade, mott mag 6v - Roxanne
1953 54 blade, c22, wood 42 6v
1957 6v - barn Queen
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower 12 v - Loboy
1974 Horse II 12 v c-2
1975 with woods 42-6 12 v - Horse
1979 long strip 12 v stuck engine
130 with international 1000 loader 6 v
1969 140 with bush hog tow behind mower 12 v
Terramite T-6 4WD Backhoe Perkins diesel
Memberships: Rough and Tumble Engineers Historical Association;Chapter 8 IH Collectors; IH Collectors Worldwide
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Glen Mills PA

Re: IH 1000 loader questions

Postby inairam » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:24 am

Another suggestion. I have not used my loader on a loboy. On my standard cub, I found I needed double wheel weight to keep from spinning with a load. Now I have very wetland and less than perfect ag tires.

I have moved the loaded to a 130 and am now adding a second set of weights to that tractor. I spin with a load on the forks which put the load further out than the bucket.
When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!

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Re: IH 1000 loader questions

Postby tomcough » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:19 pm

I have a 1000 loader on a 130. Yes, double the wheel weights.

Tom Coughlin
Stow, MA

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several walk behind garden tractors
(20) FastHitch implements
tons' of cultivating and planting stuff
C-16 Cub Middlebuster
(2) A33 Cub bean harvester
NOS Planet Jr. planter
172 planter, large combo hopper, 101A fertilzer hopper
Cole 250# fertilizer hopper with chain drive.
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Re: IH 1000 loader questions

Postby CapeCodCubs » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:56 pm

tomcough wrote:I have a 1000 loader on a 130. Yes, double the wheel weights.

Tom Coughlin
Stow, MA


Thanks...I have plenty of front weights but sold the rear weights. Had no need for them but wish I hadn't. This Cub came with a weight box and weights so that might work out when I put the loader on the 65 Lo Boy.

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Re: IH 1000 loader questions

Postby BSR » Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:03 am

Heres 1 of my loaders on a Cub with 2 sets of rear weights. Works good. BUT your killing the Cub for power wise.
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CapeCodCubs
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1948 F Cub Fast hitch
1949 F Cub
1950 F Cub Fast hitch
1965 Loboy Fast hitch
1966 Loboy with 1000 loader
1976 International Cub
several walk behind garden tractors
(20) FastHitch implements
tons' of cultivating and planting stuff
C-16 Cub Middlebuster
(2) A33 Cub bean harvester
NOS Planet Jr. planter
172 planter, large combo hopper, 101A fertilzer hopper
Cole 250# fertilizer hopper with chain drive.
Location: MA, Dartmouth

Re: IH 1000 loader questions

Postby CapeCodCubs » Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:25 am

BSR wrote:Heres 1 of my loaders on a Cub with 2 sets of rear weights. Works good. BUT your killing the Cub for power wise.


Brad...we use our Cubs for agricultural uses and the front is usually light and no power issues. So with a loader I understand you need the weight in the back. So my loader rookie question is ---you lose power with 440 pounds of weight on the wheels? What happens? It moves slower?

I know next to nothing about these loaders.

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1950 with plow, 54 blade, mott mag 6v - Roxanne
1953 54 blade, c22, wood 42 6v
1957 6v - barn Queen
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower 12 v - Loboy
1974 Horse II 12 v c-2
1975 with woods 42-6 12 v - Horse
1979 long strip 12 v stuck engine
130 with international 1000 loader 6 v
1969 140 with bush hog tow behind mower 12 v
Terramite T-6 4WD Backhoe Perkins diesel
Memberships: Rough and Tumble Engineers Historical Association;Chapter 8 IH Collectors; IH Collectors Worldwide
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Re: IH 1000 loader questions

Postby inairam » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:31 am

I have never seen a loss in power due to the wheel weight. I may accelerate a little slower but with a loader on the machine you should only be in 1st or 2nd medium throttle any way
When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!

CapeCodCubs
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1948 F Cub Fast hitch
1949 F Cub
1950 F Cub Fast hitch
1965 Loboy Fast hitch
1966 Loboy with 1000 loader
1976 International Cub
several walk behind garden tractors
(20) FastHitch implements
tons' of cultivating and planting stuff
C-16 Cub Middlebuster
(2) A33 Cub bean harvester
NOS Planet Jr. planter
172 planter, large combo hopper, 101A fertilzer hopper
Cole 250# fertilizer hopper with chain drive.
Location: MA, Dartmouth

Re: IH 1000 loader questions

Postby CapeCodCubs » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:41 am

inairam wrote:Iyou should only be in 1st or 2nd medium throttle any way


Ya, I did see that in the operators manual and that makes sense.

How responsive are the hydraulics for lifting and dumping the bucket? Is it smooth or kind of jerky?
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Re: IH 1000 loader questions

Postby BSR » Wed Nov 18, 2020 1:27 pm

Mine has filled tires, 2 sets of Rear weights, the weight of the loader on the cub, the person on the cub, and whatever weights in the bucket. IT ADS UP.
PLUS you need Pop Eye arms to steer it.

inairam
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Tractors Owned: 1948 6v - Dozer
1949 with kub klipper belly mower. mag 6v - Mom
1950 with plow, 54 blade, mott mag 6v - Roxanne
1953 54 blade, c22, wood 42 6v
1957 6v - barn Queen
1965 lo-boy with c-3 mower 12 v - Loboy
1974 Horse II 12 v c-2
1975 with woods 42-6 12 v - Horse
1979 long strip 12 v stuck engine
130 with international 1000 loader 6 v
1969 140 with bush hog tow behind mower 12 v
Terramite T-6 4WD Backhoe Perkins diesel
Memberships: Rough and Tumble Engineers Historical Association;Chapter 8 IH Collectors; IH Collectors Worldwide
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: Glen Mills PA

Re: IH 1000 loader questions

Postby inairam » Wed Nov 18, 2020 2:30 pm

My hydraulics are smooth I could lift pallets and things very carefully and safely.

The loader does make the cub hard to steel with a load. The 130 is much easier to steer.

You have to think of this not as a loader but as the best wheelbarrow you will ever own. you are not going to dig a septic system or a pool. Even with its limits, I use this more than anything. It very handy to have around. I use my home made forks more than the bucket.
When you only have 9 horsepower you need to know the names of all of the ponies!


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