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Enclosed trailer

Postby Arnold » Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:50 pm

I'd like to haul a cub in an enclosed trailer. Trailer can't be over 5000lbs gvwr/500 tongue weight. Any suggestions?
Second question: does anyone make tandem trailers with 2000# axles?
Any experiences or suggestions? Thanks.

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Re: Enclosed trailer

Postby John *.?-!.* cub owner » Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:01 pm

do not get 2000 pound axles unless you have a particular reason for that low a weight rating. 3500 is as low as I would go, even though you do not plan to tow that heavy a load with your vehicle. The brakes on the 3500 lb. will be better, and the weight will not be a lot more. If you are looking at a 16 foot trailer, an enclosed trailer by it self will run around 2500+ pounds.
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Re: Enclosed trailer

Postby Urbish » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:57 am

John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:do not get 2000 pound axles unless you have a particular reason for that low a weight rating


I think he was getting at a tandem axle trailer with two 2000# axles for a combined rating of 4000#.
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Re: Enclosed trailer

Postby Clemsonfor » Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:19 am

Urbish wrote:
John *.?-!.* cub owner wrote:do not get 2000 pound axles unless you have a particular reason for that low a weight rating


I think he was getting at a tandem axle trailer with two 2000# axles for a combined rating of 4000#.

I think he realized that. His point was don't get light duty axles. There is no point in that. 3500# is industry standard. Also reason he talked about a 16ft is that I don't really remember seeing any box trailers that are tandem and less than 16ft.

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Re: Enclosed trailer

Postby Gary Dotson » Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:39 am

I've seen enclosed trailers as short as 12' with tandem axles. Several years ago I built a 12' tandem open trailer, with 2000# torsion axles. That was a sweet little trailer! It had 13" tires with 4 lug aluminum wheels. While the light tandem you're considering may not be the normal offering from the trailer builders, I think about any of them would build one to your specs. This is also an opportunity to order a trailer equipped exactly as you want it to be. Keep in mind that with the lighter axles the brakes will be considerably smaller, but the ones on mine worked quite well. A custom built trailer is going to cost considerably more but you'll never regret it. I just remembered! Last year I had a hybrid camping trailer with that same exact set-up.

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Re: Enclosed trailer

Postby Clemsonfor » Fri Oct 30, 2020 9:32 am

Remember trailers are like shops (I corrected it, originally I accidentally typed ships, while I guess that works too, it's just random and funny) and sheds always buy a bigger one than you think you need cause you will always wish you had a bigger one. I have a 16ft tandem axle car hauler and it's like ever other month I wish it was 18 or 20.
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Re: Enclosed trailer

Postby Arnold » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:52 am

Yes, I was thinking of tandem 2000# or tandem 2500# axles on a 14 or 16' enclosed trailer. My van is only rated for 5000# trailer/500# tongue weight. Through online search I see they are made but I don't see any trailers with them. And yes it looks like I could probably order one through a trailer comapany. Does anyone know of a direct custom fabricator of enclosed trailers?
Thanks again for all the info and replies.

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Re: Enclosed trailer

Postby Barnyard » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:55 am

I started with a 14 foot trailer and said it should have been bigger. So years later I bought an 18 footer, but soon it was too small. I finally bought a 20 foot deck over. Lots of room on it,but I wis i could go bigger. Unfortunately, a bigger one would be too long to pull behind the motor home.

Go big while you can. I advise a tandem with at least 3500 pound axles. Just because the van is rated for 5000 lb doesn't mean you can't pull a heavier rated trailer. Just don't load it as heavy. A heavier trailer will have a better resale value if you ever want to sell it.
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Re: Enclosed trailer

Postby tmays » Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:03 am

Arnold wrote:Yes, I was thinking of tandem 2000# or tandem 2500# axles on a 14 or 16' enclosed trailer. My van is only rated for 5000# trailer/500# tongue weight. Through online search I see they are made but I don't see any trailers with them. And yes it looks like I could probably order one through a trailer comapany. Does anyone know of a direct custom fabricator of enclosed trailers?
Thanks again for all the info and replies.

Not going to be enough difference in actual weight between the 2000 lb axles and the 3500lb axles to make a real difference. And if you want to sell it in future, will sell much quicker with the 3500 lb axles. And I agree with the guys about buying bigger. I bought 12’ single axle trailer new with 3500 lb axle and have regretted it ever since.
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Re: Enclosed trailer

Postby Gary Dotson » Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:46 am

I can't advise of any builder, in your area but talk to any reputable trailer dealer, in your area, and they should be more than happy to special order what you want. I have custom ordered trailers from 3 different dealers, all were happy to take a custom spec. order. That being said, though, I agree with most of the other opinions above. Trailers with 3500# axles are in stock at any dealer and you can drive away with it today. When buying a trailer, don't grab the lowest price, but do your due diligence and look value. There is a tremendous difference in the construction of trailers, buy good quality, you'll never regret it!

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Re: Enclosed trailer

Postby Eugene » Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:43 pm

Go big. You will find a number of things to haul/do with the trailer.

We are using a 16' enclosed trailer to store household items when we renovate a room in the house. Empty out the room, store the items in the trailer.

Must do. When you purchase the trailer, purchase a padlock to lock the hitch and another one for each of the doors. Folks have been stealing the trailer from construction sites. One contractor removes the wheels from his on site storeage trailers.
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Re: Enclosed trailer

Postby Arnold » Sat Oct 31, 2020 9:52 pm

Thanks for your advises.
I want to be able to drive the cub into the trailer. I noticed that a typical interior height is 6'3" or maybe 6'6" but found by close reading that the ramp opening is about 4"-6" less. Do you fellows have taller height trailers?

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Re: Enclosed trailer

Postby Jim Becker » Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:16 pm

If you have a vertical exhaust, you may need to remove the muffler to put it in the trailer.

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Re: Enclosed trailer

Postby Gary Dotson » Sun Nov 01, 2020 8:24 am

Yes, both of the enclosed trailers, that I have ordered, were ordered with extra height. My primary concern was the roof height of my golf cart. Extra height is a very common option and the dealer will have it listed on the list of available options, with a stated price. Actually, that was the entire reason I special ordered that first one. In addition to the extra height, the latest one I ordered also has a beaver tail, at the rear, which makes the door opening, pretty much, the same as the ceiling height. Go talk to your dealer, educate yourself on what's available, before purchasing. Don't expect to get a quality trailer for the prices you see advertised.


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